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KidRaven

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Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« on: November 15, 2019, 06:03:34 PM »

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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2019, 01:25:42 PM »

Stark was fired in an addition by subtraction move.
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2019, 04:08:07 PM »

I like Cherrington. He drafted the core of that Red Sox team that is still there. He ran into trouble with high priced free agents but we know that wonít be an opportunity he is given here.
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2019, 09:35:06 AM »

In some sad news, Vera Clemente, widow of Roberto, passed away.
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2019, 12:22:54 PM »

To add on Cherrington, I think he is a little more old school than the other candidates so Pirates fans should like that. The assistants from Houston and Milwaukee were just numbers geeks and I do not think the Pirates fanbase would take to that. At all.

The Pirates fan base wants young talented players drafted on ability. They want the Pirates to sign players who theyíve heard of to big money short term contracts. And the most important thing is the fans donít want to be talked down to. I hope Vherrington realizes this. We have put up with a line of bull for years. Fans arenít trusting anything anybody says until results are here.
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2019, 03:35:10 PM »

I always felt Huntington was focused on analytics to the exclusion of everything else. I think to be effective, management has to have room for every type of evaluation tool from old school eyes to advanced analytics in their decision-making process. If this is how Cherrington operates, I believe the Pirates will be the better for it.
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2019, 08:55:07 PM »

Huntington to me wasnít too attached to analytics. He was too attached to what he used 10 years ago. Simply put his pitch to contact theory with shifts worked for a period of time until other teams adjusted and said swing the bat like a golf club and hit it over the shift. So pitching for contact turned into pitching to guys trying to swing for the fences. Contact is what they certainly got. His stubbornness is what did him in.

I think analytics are most important thing to look at but you have to be flexible and admit when youíve been solved. He had no ability to admit fault. Even saying this 93 loss season would happen one in a thousand times based on the simulations the front office runs. Well maybe your simulations are faulty too and the team just stinks. I donít think he could take any sort of responsibility.
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2019, 06:09:31 AM »

PG reports TB and Minn bench coaches are under consideration for Pirates' mgr opening.
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2019, 06:16:17 PM »

Reading where Rick Porcello May be interested in signing with the Pirates. Think that would be a good veteran to give thePirates respectable innings. Something they got away from the past few seasons.
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2019, 01:46:02 PM »

Pirates hire Derek Shelton as their new manager.  He was the Twins' bench coach

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28176445/pirates-hire-twins-bench-coach-derek-shelton-manager
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2019, 05:30:46 PM »

Pirates hiring all these guys with American League experience and first time manager (means cheap) to revive the Pirates.  Good luck there, guys. :)
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2019, 07:44:35 PM »

Coach not to be a jerk but could you tell us how you would run the Pirates? I just feel like youíre critical of literally everything they do.
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2019, 09:33:05 PM »

Coach not to be a jerk but could you tell us how you would run the Pirates? I just feel like youíre critical of literally everything they do.
How can you not be critical?  What am I missing? Why bother with 'if I ran the Pirates' cause it ain't gonna happen.  All they did was rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic..so far.   Pittsburgh is dying for a winner in baseball.. even Ray Charles could see that after how the town went crazy  a few years back when they got to the play offs. Happy Thanksgiving :)
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2019, 10:28:45 PM »

Just donít know why people who think there is no hope with Nutting even Ponder baseball in Pittsburgh. If I thought something was that depressing I wouldnít waste one thought on it.

Hope you and everybody else has a happy thanksgiving.
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Re: Pirates Off Season 2019-20
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2019, 11:25:01 AM »

Well, train wrecks are not nice to see, but you just can't help but look. 
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