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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2019, 09:57:31 AM »

D'Mitri had 17 pts and 10 reb for BF.  He has really shot up.  The junior is now 6 ft 4 and still growing.

Sto is ranked 2nd in AA so that's exactly the kind of team and competition for a young team like us.

Whitehawk will be a nice test tonight.  4A team that is a playoff contender.
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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2019, 12:36:19 PM »

D'Mitri Nesmith looks like another person this season. I was told he worked out this summer and went to a few basketball camps. It really shows he put in a lot of work. Tigers were a bit short-handed last night as Glass is just back from a foot injury and Dom Mazzei must be hurt again. Kyzer got kicked off the team for too much lip. Vaughn sat out the first 5 minutes for a similar reason. The big key to the season will be how the young guards, Harris and Sharp develop. Neither is lacking in confidence, just experience.

I went to see the 9th graders scrimmage Mohawk. Mohawk was not much of a test as BF was way too quick and fast for them. Even with that, the PG, an 8th grader named Harris, was a 1 man blitz kreig. I don't know how many steals he had, but he looks like he'll be a pretty good player. Kai Hauser's brother is also playing for the 9th grade team, but not sure what grade he's in. There's 2 8th graders on the team.

As for Sto, they are good team. They all had a long football season, losing to Clairton at Heinz Field. They don't have their basketball legs quite yet. They are going to beat good teams above them in class.


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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2019, 04:31:03 PM »

Cleckley has been kicked off the team?
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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2019, 09:31:38 PM »

Yes, that's what I was told albeit not by the coach. He hasn't suited up for either game although he was at Midland on Friday sitting in the stands. It's possible he's just suspended, I suppose.
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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2019, 09:48:56 PM »

Went down to Geneva to catch the games. I saw the 2nd half of StoRox vs Sewickley Academy. Sto won by 10 but the game wasn't that close. Sto again showed a lot of quickness on defense resulting in steals. Their trap is pretty effective. They're "handsy" like New Castle. SWAC doesn't look like they have much or maybe they're just young.

Second game was QV vs Sharpsville. QV won by 20+. They were too fast for Sharpsville. I don't know how competitve they'll be in 4A, maybe good, but not great. They have a big kid at center, but he's more of a perimeter than post player and not overly athletic. Thieou the soph PG lead them with 24 pts. He can score, but not sure what kind of PG he is as he wasn't asked to bring the ball up the floor much. It was hard to get a read since Sharpsville wasn't a big test.

BF played Blackhawk in game 3 and won 55-42. BH lead after the 1st qtr, but BF took the lead in the 2nd qtr and wasn't behind again. Tigers did not shoot well or the game might not have even been as close as it was. They played good defense and I think BH was kind of worn out at the end. The older Heckathorn probably had close to half their points. Conley got hot for BF in the 2nd half and probably led them in scoring. Vaughan hit a couple big 3s in the first half to keep BH from getting on a run. Tigers were strong on the boards except for missing a few lay ups and put backs. There were a lot of well executed plays and good passes for easy points. They did a good job against BH's press. They look well coached on what to do. Tigers are 2 for 2 in the battle of 15010 so far.

Stayed a to see a little of PR vs Penn Hills. PR has a bunch of kids who all look to be in the 6' to 6'3" range. They didn't look quite as quick or athletic as PH. A half-court offense vs a run-oriented one.

PH beat PR 66-65.

LP over Hickory 76-63. Hickory hit 10 3s. Score by qtr seems to indicate game was close most of the way.
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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2019, 11:46:16 AM »

good job beating the Cougars!

Still champs of the 15010

yeah Heckathorn kid is good, he's played on AAU teams with BF boys when he was younger. He still might play with them, Idk.
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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2019, 03:26:43 PM »

Dom Henderson needs to recruit some of those boys before they get to 9th grade.  ;D
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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2019, 10:41:51 PM »

Tigers took it on the chin from New Castle this evening losing by 25 or so. NC shot the lights out. I don't know how many 3s they hit, but it must have been double digits. Credit to them for hitting the open long range shots BF gave them. Cox and Wells had 50 of NC's 70 some points. I guess I'll look on the plus side that BF only lost by 25 instead of getting mercy-ruled as both teams played starters until near the very end.

Tigers could have played better on defense. They just left too many wide open uncontested 3s and NC hit them. Hopefully the game is a learning experience for them. The fact that BF has no experienced true Gs really hurt them. I think they might be better off just going with a rotation of Harris and Sharp at PG and take their lumps for a few games. If anything is their achilles heel this season, it will be the PG play.

I don't really know how 4A stacks up outside of Beaver County, but I'm not sure who will challenge NC assuming their 3 pt shooting holds up. Ambridge is big and could give them trouble if they can handle NC's pressure.
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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2019, 06:11:41 AM »

Bfgrad, I am not sure our defense was bad.  I just believe NC was so good on offense and their ability to make the extra pass and find the open man was more of the reason.  NC and Blundo was playing chess while Jeter and our kids were playing checkers.  We were totally outclassed and that was a clinic.

Good news?  It means nothing as its just a learning experience.  I am disappointed that it wasn't more competitive.  Last night only strengthens my thought that #1 Butler and #4 Pine Richland will boat race as well later this month.  Two blowouts in the making.

I agree we need to give Sharp and Harris more minutes at PG.  Aside from Conley, they have no one reliable to bring the ball up the floor.  I am impressed with Conley, who had 17.  The 6 ft 2 junior can score the ball and was blowing by NC defenders for buckets.  He will be trouble for 3A teams. 

They should roll at New Brighton Thursday then next Tuesday at Highlands, ranked #2 in 4A, could be another ugly game, but you never know.

On a side note, Cleckley has been kicked off the team.  6 ft 4, 250 lb starting center but lazy and a bad attitude.  Good for Jeter not to put up with his crap.  This team is better off playing younger kids than a senior who doesn't care.
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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2019, 07:39:44 AM »

I was impressed BF was getting points inside and rebounds and they forced some turnovers. At some point, the Tigers are going to run up against another team that runs and presses like NC, so it's good to know what to expect. And, BF did beat NC back in fall league. NC didn't have Wells because of football, but that says they can hang with them. On defense, the kids simply weren't disciplined enough to stick with their man.

But, there is really not much that you can do when a team is just not missing many shots (50% from the floor and 12 3s). This game reminded me a lot of the playoff game vs Farrell up at NC about 10 years. Farrell made 8 straight 3s, that I doubt many expected would happen, and that was the game.

I think PG play will improve once BF gets in some JV games where Harris and Sharp will play a lot of minutes. They're 3 games in and not a single JV game yet.

I'm not surprised Jeter parted ways with Kyzer. He didn't put up with nonsense from his own kids; he's not going to do it with his players.
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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2019, 08:32:08 AM »

BF had 25 turnovers last night which really illustrates just how bad our guard play was last night.  New Castle was extremely good with their hands and pick-pocketed us many times AFTER we got control of a rebound or loose ball.  Getting the ball inbounds was a challenge as well for us last night.

I didn't realize Wells is only a sophomore....wow...he had 26.  That kid is special.  And a freshman, Boice, had 16 points for them.  Cox is only a junior and he had 21.  They may be moving up to 5A next season but they will be fine.
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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2019, 03:54:39 AM »

Tigers beat NB 54-36. No other details as I didn't go.
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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2019, 06:28:30 AM »

You didn't miss much, bfgrad.  Just an awful game to watch.  90 minutes of my life I will never get back.

BF was sloppy from the beginning and NB was even worse.  BF simply put has NO guards that can comfortably bring the ball up and run the offense.  And because of that, they have no transition game.

Michael Conley is without a doubt their best all-around player.  He is the only one that can beat someone off the dribble and score the ball.  Nobody else can on this team.  Thank god he's only a junior. 

Jeter dumbfounded me with his starting lineup.  Dmitri did not start.  Cam did at center.  He had 2 pts and 5 fouls.  No idea why he even plays as many minutes as he does.  Nice kid but a struggle on the court putting it mildly.

Jeter has to let Sharp and Harris play more.  I know they are only a freshman and sophomore but it will pay off next year and beyond.  BF isn't winning anything this year.  However, next year is a different story with 8 of top 10 returning and Lincoln Park moving up most likely. Biega did the same thing with Cook and Cottrill when they were freshman and it paid off in 2012 with a WPIAL title and WPIAL and PIAA title in 2013.  I remember how bad Cook looked his freshman year in 2010.  He could barely bring the ball up.  Nevertheless,  you gotta have guards more than anything else.  Jeter needs to develop them this year and beyond.  They are very hard to watch on offense as they are so disjointed and have no identity.  Jeter's lineups are a result of that.  He starts a 5 where only one kid can handle ball.  Need at least two FFS. Makes zero sense.

It's very early, but BF is far from a quality team IMHO.  Last year's team improved and I expect this team to do the same.  How much?  I am not sure because they need to develop at least a second offensive threat.  Last year, they had Jaylin, Jordan and Gage.  Their improvement depends upon that important item.

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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2019, 05:35:22 PM »

In Cam's defense, he hasn't played a lot of ball since June when he had surgery on his shoulder he hurt in AAU, then he returned and hurt his foot. I think not having Dom Mazzei, too, hurts a bit as he was playing well over the summer and fall and part of a group that was working with Sheldon before school every day.

I agree about that good guard play is the key. Harris and Sharp are good guards and Mo has at least grown some so he's not at such a height disadvantage. I personally would probably start any 2 of the Nesmiths, Vaughan, Hauser or Glass and rotate the group of them in and out, then Razir Jones as my defensive specialist, Conley at PG and a rotation of Harris/Sharp at the other guard.

I would not judge the season by a game vs NB that I'm betting the kids didn't take all the seriously.
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Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2019, 07:10:18 PM »

Stop it lol...

Cam is awful and Dom won't see the floor either.  These are JV players at best, nothing more than that.  I don't care if they were working with Sheldon.  Shaq shot hundreds of FTs per day but he still stunk from the line.  Sometimes it doesn't matter how hard you work at something.

Good teams should be blowing out teams like NB.  Laurel beat them 71-34.  Enough said. 
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