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bfgrad

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2019, 03:00:20 PM »

If they want blockers, then draft OTs.

This kid came in as a qb, got coverted to TE by Harbaugh, didn't/doesn't want to be a TE, redshirted a year, played 2 years at a completely new position and put up mediocre numbers. My bet is this guy is PS project at best. And the Steelers apparently traded UP in the 5th round to get him.
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yannessa_is_god

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2019, 03:15:39 PM »

That and I'm not sure what you are getting at with salary. Most picks are slotted more so by draft position than position (unless maybe a position like PK or FB). Ben's salary probably has zero to do with draft strategy.
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bfgrad

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2019, 03:26:46 PM »

All teams need money to sign their draft choices. That's part of the salary cap same as BR's salary is.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2019, 03:27:25 PM »

The next pick is an OLB from Northern Illinois. Looks undersized but extremely productive. Nice to see them go for production over projection with a guy from that position.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2019, 03:47:58 PM »

Probably exactly the same as Jesse James.

The Steelers have spent this entire draft reaching for players who are near clones to what they lost via trade (AB), free agency (Bell, James) and injury (Shazier). Bush might turn out to be a great player, but, imho, this is not a smart strategy. I suppose they have to get a lot of cheap players given the cap-busting contract they just gave BR.

I couldn't disagree more. But that's your opinion and I'll respect that. Hard to agree with the "cheap" strategy when they moved up in the top 10 to get a stud and draft $$ is already slotted pretty much.  If we want to talk cheap, the Pirates thread is appropriate, not the Steelers.

Bush is far from a reach and Layne is a steal in the 3rd round. He's a late 1st-2nd rd value. Johnson and Snell are nice additions to the offense and Johnson is a special teams demon.

Sorry but Gentry will be fine. The Jesse James's of the world are a dime a dozen.

One final thing...I'm positive the Steelers didn't bust their cap signing Ben lololol.  Remember the dead money from AB is off the books in 2020.  That's $21 million back in play. I'll trust they know what they are doing.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2019, 03:52:49 PM »

Snell might be an upgrade to Connor from day 1.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2019, 03:55:59 PM »

Snell might be an upgrade to Connor from day 1.

If Snell becomes better, then the Steelers have a wonderful problem on their hands lololol...

Conner is very good but I do like Snell.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2019, 03:56:24 PM »

Correct...Ben's contract rework makes signing all of these prospects possible. It is just kicking the can down the road (i.e. when he retires he will leave a load of dead money a'la Romo or he will play out his contract as a major cap hit one year a'la Brees two years ago) but that will be a rebuilding year anyways when Ben retires. In 2019 it helps the team.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2019, 03:59:11 PM »

The crazy thing is that I can see all of their first five picks contributing this season! If that happens then this has been a helluva draft.

Their first maybe not usable player who will have to win his way onto the roster is there 6th round pick. Probably not NFL pass rushing size or speed so he will have to make a name for himself on special teams. With that said their 2nd 6th round pick (DT Buggs Alabama) makes the team also.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2019, 06:03:35 PM »

LOL! There is some serious rose-colored glasses looking at this draft.

Here's a much more likely scenario:

Bush is a starter by the end of the season
Johnson beats out Switzer as PR/KR, sees little action at first, more as the season progresses, starts to split time with Eli Rogers, but if he drops a few early on BR ignores him and his playing time decreases.
Layne special teamer, project at CB ala Brian Allen another converted WR. Yet another man-to-man/bump and run specialist asked to play in a zone scheme ala Artie Burns.
Snell is 3rd RB, probably spends the first half of the season inactive as Steelers usually only dress 2 RBs plus Rosey Nix unless he proves to be a ST demon.
Gentry is PS material if that. NFL draft profile is not flattering. Ceiling is probably 3rd TE behind McDonald and Grimble
Smith has a chance to stick due to lack of OLB depth if he can transition from college DE, but probably headed to PS
Buggs has a chance to stick due to age and lack of depth on the DL and some familiarity with DL coach Dunbar.
Gilbert probably PS material especially due to the now glut of ILBs.
Grey would have a better chance if Munchak was still OL coach, but Steelers like to bring their OL along slowly.

Of the late round choices, I'd give Buggs the best chance to make the 53 man roster because the DL doesn't have much depth and Alalau, the top back up, is 31 or 32. His competition is probably McCullers.


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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2019, 07:31:56 PM »

Snell is good. That guy is a short yardage back they haven’t had in forever.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2019, 12:25:05 AM »

In general I liked the draft.

Bush I think they shouldn’t have traded up for and took best defender available at 20.

WR I have no idea on.

CB I like. Good value.

Snell I think will be starting permanently when Connor finds himself hurt.

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2019, 09:07:34 AM »

Regarding draft grades I've seen as high as A- and "above average" from a site not using letter grades to as low as a B- which to me indicates solid but not eye popping spectacular. Which to me seems about right. They addressed needs and acquired useful players.

In my opinion I would have maybe wanted to see them wait on WR (their best drafting at that position has been Round 3 and later traditionally) and address OT earlier but the way Round 3 and beyond shook out (Layne was a huge value and arguably their best pick of the draft) I would not have done much different. Just an overall solid draft.

The worst draft in the division by far (and most overrated draft in the NFL by far) is the Ravens. Drafting 2 WRs and a project type of QB makes no sense for a team that literally could not pass once Jackson was inserted. Their 2018 WRs totally disappeared once Flacco went down (which was much more of a reflection on QB play than WR play). Granted, these guys are speedy that they drafted, so maybe their plan is to totally embrace the option and run some kind of single wing or double slot and use these talents as runners. Regardless, the only reason that their IMO idiotic draft is rated high is because they stuck to the Kiper/McShay draftboard and got great value by the experts' opinion.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2019, 10:32:45 AM »

The WR they took from Okla, Marquis(?) Brown, is AB's cousin. I agree about Jackson not being a good enough passer to keep defenses from keying on him as a runner or keeping him in the pocket and making him pass. McSorley is a different story, though. He can pass. His stats weren't great last year, but I think that's because Barkley and his best receivers were gone and McSorley tried too often to carry the offense by himself. Plus he was in that awful boom or bust RPO offense Franklin runs. He was pretty gimpy at the end of the season, too, from that knee injury. If nothing else McSorley is competitive and a winner. He was well worth taking a late round chance on, imho.
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