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BALDWINTRACK

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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #240 on: January 03, 2020, 06:46:39 PM »

Whatís he supposed to do??? How about quit giving unconditional support to Israel for starters. Thatís a huge bone of contention. How about leaving Iraq and allowing that majority shiíite population to be taken under iranís wing. We meddle in stuff over there. Thatís why theyíre being provocative. None of thee things matter at all to me or you yet our government since 1945 has decided they do matter. Then you end up in no win situations.
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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #241 on: January 04, 2020, 11:54:26 AM »

You can at least admit the guy cant win either way Everything he does is I would do it this way from the other side But when they had the opportunity didn't do anything    So if he disregarded the info and Americans were attacked or killed he gets criticized  They would be saying OMG he knew and let this happen LOL   

IMO and I may be wrong IRAN is screwed  They may strike but will pay a huge price  We all get to see it play out   

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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #242 on: January 04, 2020, 03:44:22 PM »

Oh youíre right. He canít win either way. Just like Obama was DEAD WRONG to give them money but the media STILL thinks itís a good idea to do that. The media sucks.
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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #243 on: January 04, 2020, 04:21:09 PM »

Iran is not screwed either they WANT a war. They spin Trump rallying evangelicals in FL last night as a HOLY WAR. We are starting a war we donít want to fight but they literally LIVE to fight. They will line up to be martyrs. They already retaliated today. Provoking Iran is what they want. I think you are 100% wrong Ryan. The US is in an unwinnable position. We must denounce relations with Israel, leave Iraq and Saudi Arabia and allow everything in the Middle East to work itself out.
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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #244 on: January 04, 2020, 08:47:53 PM »

Leave middle east to work it out....you mean ..let them destroy Israel!   You will really have a war in mid east and it won't stay there...Israel follows the mantra....NEVER AGAIN!  They kicked the Arabs asses 3 times already...they will do it again if they have to survive..if they lose...another holocaust.
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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #245 on: January 04, 2020, 09:44:59 PM »

Yes coach if thatís what happens thatís what happens. Do you support the current US position of being a buffer between Israel and Iran?
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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #246 on: January 05, 2020, 02:09:28 PM »

I support Israel, our only true ally in the world.  And if anyone thinks the Moslems will stop at wiping Israel off the map, you are deluded.  If you study or know anytiing about Islam you know it is based upon making the entire world Islamic....one way or another.  Just like when they were spreading their faith in Africa and India and controlling Spain and treatening Europe.
The Mantra is "the Koran or the Sword".  Convert or die!  All men are brothers (Moslems)...death to the infidel.  "There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger."
Practice saying that. Oh, btw, when the Moslems controlled Spain they would let you live if you paid tribute (money) to them..sort of like how Iran was bought off for a plane load of money not too long ago.  They believe  there will be no 'peace' in the world until all men are brothers and the Koran supports the idea of violence to spread the faith. Rewarding those who die fighting for Allah. Why the public beheadings? To scare their enemy, of course. So, they will not stop with Israel...they smell fear and see weakness if not standing up to them. They will never negotiate or hold to a 'deal'. Violence is only thing they recognize.
BTW, I side with Trump on not going and telling "the leaders of Congress" anything about the intended raid....They have shown they cannot be trusted..Nancy and her lap dog Shummer.
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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #247 on: January 05, 2020, 04:14:18 PM »

I 100% agree with you coach. Iíve studied all of that and have come to the same conclusion.

We disagree on the role Israel serves. I do not consider them an ally.
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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #248 on: January 08, 2020, 10:21:42 PM »

Track   Foreign policy expert Ian Bremmer on Wednesday said that the exchange of hostilities between the U.S. and Iran has been "a win" for President Trump, and that Tehran is weaker now compared with when Trump took office.

Iím far from a Trump supporter.

But impossible not to call Iran outcome a win for US president and a big opportunity going forward.

"There's a real opportunity for diplomacy if Trump wants it and is capable of taking it," he added. "But for now, let's be clear, this is a much more powerful United States showing the Iranians that you are not going to come after the U.S. directly."





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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #249 on: January 09, 2020, 03:46:56 PM »

Iran has no interest in diplomacy. Zero. Their interest is removing the US from the Middle East so they can have Iraq and eventually eliminate Israel. There is nothing less that theyíll accept. Itís a waste of time to talk to them. This isnít North Korea, completely different. I think Trumpís playbook worked well with Kim. Wonít with Iran. Now he did step back yesterday which is great.
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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #250 on: January 09, 2020, 05:27:09 PM »

Well, has Trump been blamed for the shooting down of the Passenger plane by Iran yet?  Yes, if he did not kill that terrorist leader...Iran would not have been shooting off their rockets and and hitting the plane.

I can not stand to look at Pelosi's botox pumped face and listen to her attacks.  She has no shame.
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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #251 on: January 09, 2020, 07:53:53 PM »

A different congresswoman already did blame Trump. Completely absurd
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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #252 on: January 10, 2020, 06:42:40 AM »

ďMayor PeteĒ blames Trump for Iran shooting down a Ukraine commercial jet. Is this the game we are seriously going to play?
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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #253 on: January 10, 2020, 10:58:28 AM »

Trump hit the nail on the head when he said...giving Congress a 'heads up' on Iran event would lead to Congress running to the 'fake news and leak it'.  Sorry, but it is sad to say that the Democratic leaders are not trustworthy and will go to any length to destroy President  Trump...any length.
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Re: Forgetting or ignoring history part 2
« Reply #254 on: January 10, 2020, 04:41:50 PM »

Republicans would do the same to a democratic president. Make no bones about it.
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