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green

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New bill separating private and playoffs likely to pass.
« on: June 10, 2019, 07:11:49 PM »

PPG   June 10
The real news about this is that both public schools AND private schools are now in favor of this new proposal. What's suprisingly revealed  was that since 1972 the PiAA only required private school to have membership in the PIAA, they did not require private and public schools to have combined combined playoffs. I believe having separate sections are also being considered. A news conference will be held Tuesday morning regarding this.
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Bob.Gregg.WJPA.Radio

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Re: New bill separating private and playoffs likely to pass.
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2019, 11:04:59 AM »

Until the actual legislation is seen, it's hard to say that it's "likely to pass".......
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Re: New bill separating private and playoffs likely to pass.
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2019, 01:18:20 PM »

The proposal is for separate private and public but charter schools would stay in public.  Also would eliminate transfer rule meaning you can transfer for athletic reasons freely as long as team hasnít played more than 50 percent of games. 

WPIAL has come out saying they arenít in favor.
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Re: New bill separating private and playoffs likely to pass.
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2019, 02:35:31 PM »

This will not fly with parents in the public schools. It's bad enough you have people not truthful on residency.  Parents will not like their kid getting bumped for a last minute transfer.  Especially a parent paying 6k or more in property taxes for someone supposedly living somewhere in the district using a P.O. etc.
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Re: New bill separating private and playoffs likely to pass.
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2019, 06:11:49 PM »

Under no circumstances should the 2 champions play each other.  What's the point?  You want separated, fine...2 champions it should be.  If the privates keep winning the majority of the final games, the pub's people will still be pizzzzzed!  Can't/shouldn't have it both ways.   JMO


The more trophies (participation, that is) the better.
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Re: New bill separating private and playoffs likely to pass.
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2019, 09:45:42 PM »

I agree emm. Canít have it both ways. If they split they split.

This sucks for individual sports like golf, tennis, wrestling, swimming and track. Iím against it simply because it messes up those championships.
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Re: New bill separating private and playoffs likely to pass.
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2019, 09:54:42 PM »

I agree emm. Canít have it both ways. If they split they split.

This sucks for individual sports like golf, tennis, wrestling, swimming and track. Iím against it simply because it messes up those championships.

I donít think they are separating individual sports.  Only proposed for basketball, football, volleyball, soccer, baseball and softball.

Also seems only for PIAA playoffs and that District titles still combined.
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Re: New bill separating private and playoffs likely to pass.
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2019, 11:01:35 AM »

It wouldnít affect the WPIAL playoffs you would be separated come states. So it still denies public schools opportunity because you have to be a district champion to move on.
So whatís the point?
Sounds like a way of getting around the transfer rule that would then open transfers for athletic intent.
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Re: New bill separating private and playoffs likely to pass.
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2019, 08:33:31 PM »

In my view, elimination of the transfer rule is a bad idea. There are some select public schools (like my home district) that are habitual violators of the transfer rule. In my view, those schools do more to "un-level" the playing field than the private schools do playing with the publics. This legislation purports to solve a problem, but in reality, it creates an equal or larger problem. 
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Re: New bill separating private and playoffs likely to pass.
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2019, 07:42:36 AM »

Open transfer up until the school you're leaving has played 50% of its games....

SO, the three-sport star QB plays the first 4 games of the football season, but as a team, we stink.
The highly-ranked school up the road just lost their QB to a season-ending knee injury.
Off goes my three-sport star to the school up the road, living with "Uncle Joe", no questions asked.

We roll on to hoops season, and said three-sport star is a high-scoring power forward.
The highly-ranked school up the road is lousy in hoops, but he tries to help.
Eight games in, he realizes it's no use and heads over the hill to the highly-ranked BB team at the neighboring HS where he takes up residence with "Pappy Bill", no questions asked.

Finally, it's spring and a young man's fancy turns to baseball.
This is the three-sporter's best event, but the over-the-hill school hasn't been good at baseball for 30 years.
So, after being swept in the season's first six games, badly, Mr. Baseball moves back home where he started the year with "Mommy & Daddy", no questions asked.

This legislation would actually permit that?  This legislation is dead in the water, as long as that provision is included.  It CAN NOT pass like that.
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Re: New bill separating private and playoffs likely to pass.
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2019, 01:04:08 PM »

time to take sports out of the schools.  The whole purpose of sports was to teach student/athletes lessons not readily taught in the classroom.....self sacrifice, delayed gratification, hard work, teamwork, how to deal with adversity, etc.  All of this is being undermined by the parent who transfers their student away from adversity.  Any sense of community or loyalty is wiped away.  Schools spend upwards of $1 million in tax dollars on athletics and the lessons intended are not valued anymore.  Now we are spending time/money to legislate this? It's disheartening to say the least.  I love school sports, community gathering to watch/support the local HS.  However, the AAU/travel ball mind set have infiltrated the HS. Other than football, colleges don't even recruit the HS anymore.  Very sad state of affairs.
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