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yannessa_is_god

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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2018, 07:32:11 AM »

ESPN did their annual fan misery index.

Out of 123 professional sports franchises Pirates ranked at 26.

Steelers 112 and Penguins 121 to put it into perspective.
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2019, 11:11:59 AM »

Pirates avoid arbitration with Dickerson and Kela and agree on one year deals with both.

Dickerson 1 year $8.5 million. Kela 1 year I think that it was $3.75 million.
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2019, 03:59:36 PM »

Just left the Rivers casino where you can place a bet on the Pirates to win the 2019 World Series at 66-1 odds.
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2019, 05:09:52 PM »

Just left the Rivers casino where you can place a bet on the Pirates to win the 2019 World Series at 66-1 odds.

That doesn't seem high enough, so...

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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2019, 02:04:53 PM »

Reports are that the Pirates and Dodgers are discussing a possible trade with Marte doing to LA.  The Pirates payroll is around $71 million or so and perhaps they feel this is too high, so dump Marte and his (relatively cheap) salary too I guess. 

People keep wanting a salary cap for baseball.  I want a salary floor. 
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2019, 03:48:09 PM »

NL Central payroll figures as of Jan 19, 2019:

Cubs  -  $205M
Cardinals  -  $158M
Brewers  -  $114M
Reds  -  $113M
Pirates  -  $68M
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2019, 11:10:03 PM »

NL Central payroll figures as of Jan 19, 2019:

Cubs  -  $205M
Cardinals  -  $158M
Brewers  -  $114M
Reds  -  $113M
Pirates  -  $68M


I'll have to check Rivers Casino and see if there will be an over/under bet on how many people show up to PNC park to watch the Pirates this season. I'll bet the under
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2019, 07:40:30 AM »

I bet the Pirates win more games than the Reds in 2019. But at least they’re “trying”
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2019, 02:05:19 PM »

I bet the Pirates win more games than the Reds in 2019. But at least they’re “trying”

I'm with you there. The Reds have not done much to address pitching, and their acquisitions are more name based than shrewd. Their trajectory is upward, but I would argue that they are even less likely than Pittsburgh to crash the playoffs race. Vegas BTW has the Buccos ahead of the Reds by 1.5 games on over/under.
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2019, 02:30:40 PM »

But Pirates fans would rather lose more and see Nutting spend more money. I’m convinced of that.
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2019, 03:18:39 PM »

But Pirates fans would rather lose more and see Nutting spend more money. I’m convinced of that.


Couldn't disagree with you more on this statement
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2019, 07:02:00 PM »

They had a winning season in 2018 and the majority of fans would consider it disappointing.

If they spent $125mil this year and had 5 less wins I bet attendance would be significantly higher.
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2019, 11:26:44 PM »

They had a winning season in 2018 and the majority of fans would consider it disappointing.

If they spent $125mil this year and had 5 less wins I bet attendance would be significantly higher.


Your analogy makes no sense. The Pirates payroll right now I heard is 68 million. If they came out tomorrow and said they just signed these several big priced players and now their payroll is 125 million, then sure, I bet attendance would go up because fans would think they are trying to put a winning team on the field. But if they started losing then probably attendance would drop again.


Fans got excited after they traded for Archer last season because they thought this team was gonna make a run. I would bet if you checked attendance for several weeks after that trade it was higher than before the trade. I'm just guessing. But we all saw and even posted on here the unwillingness of Hurdle to change a lineup, sit some players etc. and they started losing again. Sure they finished with 83 wins but we all saw they were going nowhere and fans got disinterested. I consider it disappointing because I thought they might just make some kind of run and beat the expectations after that little winning streak they went on but we saw that this team was not up to that and could only win when there was no pressure to
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2019, 08:45:13 AM »

All I’m saying is money isn’t always the key to winning. Paying Matt Kemp and Yasiel Puig gets you as many wins as paying two rookie contract guys. They stink! So I’m glad the Pirates didn’t sign or trade for guys fans have heard of to try to excite them.
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Re: Pirates Off-Season 2018 to 2019
« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2019, 10:49:43 PM »

I bet the Pirates win more games than the Reds in 2019. But at least they’re “trying”

So they win a few more games than the Reds.  They'll still finish 4th behind the Cubs, Cards and Brewers. Those 3 teams are better. Look what the Cards did this off-season. Brewers got better as well. Lonnie Chisenhall? Really?  Where's the power in the lineup? There is ZERO.

Stop defending this Mickey Mouse organization. They are an absolute joke. 82 wins came due to an irrelevant month of baseball in Sept. How'd they do in August when games really mattered? 10-18 from Aug 1 thru Sept 2.
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