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Title: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on November 02, 2019, 08:50:13 AM
Now that football season is over for BF, time for hoops.

After a couple of down years, BF basketball is on the rebound. The promising crop of freshmen and sophs are now juniors and seniors with a couple of years of playoff experience. The Tigers return good height at F/C, but lost all their Gs to graduation. I watched the kids in summer and fall league. They'll be a good defensive team and I believe will go about 10 deep meaning they can tire other teams out. They should be strong on the boards with Vaughan, Cleckley, Hauser, Glass, Dmitry Nesmith and Darius Nesmith, assuming he plays. Conley will probably be the main ball-handler to start the season, but freshman PG Isiah Sharp should get significant time there as well.

Tigers will get a test right away playing in the Midland Tip-Off tournament, then a home game vs New Castle. Even so, BF seems primed for a good year and playoff run.

Here is my best guess at the roster
Noah Vaughan - sr
Kyser Cleckley - sr
Razir Jones - sr
Mike Conley - jr
Kai Hauser - jr
Cam Glass - jr
Dom Mazzei - jr
Dmitry Nesmith - jr
Anthony Franchi - so
Mo Harris - so
J'ai McKenzie - so
Isiah Sharp - fr
 
Other football players who might come out
Darius Nesmith - sr
Tyler Cain - so
Jabarhi Cleckley - so
Shileak Livingston - jr
Josh Hough - jr
Xavier McKenzie - so
Jaren Brickner - fr
Mehki Clark - so

Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: Tiger4Lyfe on November 02, 2019, 03:47:25 PM
Anthony Morris took his mom's last name, was it Morris or Franchi last season?
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on November 02, 2019, 04:12:20 PM
Franchi last year, not Morris.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on November 06, 2019, 01:04:53 PM
Schedule per the school district athletic office, but there are a few games missing. All games 7:30 unless otherwise noted.

11/26 at Mt Lebo (scrimmage) 4PM
12/3 at Kennedy Catholic (scrimmage) 4:30PM
12/6 vs Sto-Rox @ Midland, Midland Tip-Off, 7:30PM
12/7 vs Blackhawk @ Geneva, Midland Tip-Off, 5PM
12/9 vs NC 
12/12 @ NB
12/17 @ Highlands
12/20 vs EC
12/21 vs Moon @ Moon, PBC Tip-Off Tournet, 3PM (also CV/Hampton, 12, KO/N Hills 1:30PM)
12/23 vs Blackhawk
12/27 vs P-R @ CJ Betters RBA @CCBC 5:30PM
12/28 vs Butler @ CJ Betters RBA @ CCBC 4PM
1/3/20 @ LP
1/7 vs Neshannock
1/10 @ Riverside
1/14 vs Aliquippa
1/17 vs NB
1/24 @ EC
1/28 vs LP
1/31 @ Neshannock
2/4 vs Riverside
2/7 @ Aliquippa

That's 20 games. They're probably playing in 2 or 3 PBC tournaments for the balance of their games.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on November 06, 2019, 02:20:15 PM
They open up with Sto-Rox on December 6 at Geneva in the Midland Tip-Off.  I am not sure who they play the next evening.  That's two more right there.  Leaves 3 games to get to 22 for the season.

Between Jan 17-24, I am sure they are playing an exhibition game in that time frame.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on November 06, 2019, 03:31:32 PM
Thanks. I knew they were playing in the Midland Tip-Off, just wasn't sure who or when.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on November 27, 2019, 09:14:19 PM
Scrimmage against Farrell set for Saturday canceled as Farrell has a PIAA playoff game in football. Tigers will scrimmage Kennedy Cath on Tuesday, 12/3 at KC.

BF plays in the Midland Tourny 12/6 and 12/7. First game is Friday vs Sto Rox at Midland, second game on Saturday vs Blackhawk at Geneva at 5PM.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on November 28, 2019, 09:06:53 PM
Here is the line up for the CJ Betters RBA, no divisions or boys champs this year because too many teams are in the same sections.

Dec. 27: Montour vs. Highlands, 4 p.m.; Beaver Falls vs. Pine-Richland, 5:30 p.m.; Central Valley vs. Aliquippa, 7 p.m.; and Lincoln Park vs. Butler, 8:30 p.m.

Dec. 28: Beaver Falls vs. Butler, 4 p.m.; Aliquippa vs. Pine-Richland, 5:30 p.m.; Central Valley vs. Montour, 7 p.m.; and Lincoln Park vs. Highlands, 8:30 p.m.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on November 29, 2019, 09:50:51 AM
Lazy scheduling by our AD.  We play Whitehawk twice.  Stupid.  And the Betters tourney is even worse.  BF is going to get boat-raced by Pine Richland and Butler. 

It's a total joke and the kids will learn nothing losing by 30 each game to 6A juggernauts.  BF is no longer elite and can't compete with the upper echelon.

Play teams you have a chance to win and/or can compete against.  That's all I'm saying.  I don't want to hear it doesn't matter, they are exhibition, blah blah blah.  Do better in terms of scheduling.

Playing teams like New Castle, Whitehawk (ONCE), Highlands and Sto-Rox are good opponents.  PR and Butler? JOKE.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on November 29, 2019, 12:38:20 PM
Betters was set up this way because BF, LP and Aliquippa are all in the same section and play twice. The same with Butler and PR.

The fact is the Tigers don't have "elite" talent and haven't for awhile. Lance played at Nebraska, hardly a hoops powerhouse, for 2 years. Sheldon played at Vandy, then Pitt. It's not like the 1970 team that sent Hmiel to U Cincy, Wagner to Pitt, Jackson to Duquesne and Kopka to DII.

This year, they have a good, deep team with decent height. They are not going to get "boat raced" by anyone. They've already played Ambridge, a very tall team, 3 times (BF did get blown out when it was Amb varsity vs BF JVs) and are scrimmaging Kennedy Cath on Tuesday.

You don't get better by playing teams you can beat. It's why Mastroianni never won at QV, because their non-section schedule was full of cream puffs.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on November 29, 2019, 07:16:39 PM
I understand why Betters was set up the way it is.  Get out of that tournament and play competition that is at your level. BF lost to Pine 69-29 last year. Butler lost in the 6A final after beating Pine in the semis by 2.  BF lost to Penn Hills 83-51 the year before in that tourney. I know you are close to Jeter and the program.  But take the rose colored glasses off, they will get boat raced by both teams.  To compare Ambridge to those teams is comical.

I really have no idea what the point of your second paragraph is about.  What does Lance and Sheldon have to do with my point?  I'm talking about elite teams BF had in the past.  From 2002 thru 2016, BF had elite talent and teams for all but 2 of those years...2010 was Biega's worst team. Those years BF played 4A and 3A schools and won a lot or played to their level. 

Did I say cream puffs? No. All I'm asking is to play 4A, 3A and elite 2A teams.  Get creative and play teams from D-10 and D-6.  Play a city league school.  Do a better job of scheduling.  OLSH beat them 2 years ago.  Sto-Rox BOAT RACED them last year.  Those are 2A schools.  They have no business playing 6A elite teams.  You don't learn a damn thing losing 69-29 other than to question why the game was played to begin with. 
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: OprtnShtdwn on December 07, 2019, 02:59:26 AM
Did you go to the game yesterday? Was curious how sto looked. I know we lost by 1
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 07, 2019, 05:16:07 AM
OS, you guys have a pretty good team, very quick and athletic. They forced 20+ turnovers from BF. Sto's kids are fairly tall, but they all seem to have long arms and that helped them press and trap. I'd say they went about 8 deep. They'll probably improve when the football players get their basketball legs. It won't surprise me if they end up playing at the Pete.

The game was nip and tuck for the most part. I think BF held the biggest lead at 8 pts or so in the first half. Sto took a 4 pt lead late in the game, but BF's Vaughan hit a 3 to tie it up with under a minute to go. Sto got the ball and played for the last shot, but missed it, BF got the rebound with 10 secs left, got down the court, Franchi put up a shot, was fouled with 1 sec left, made the 1st, clanked the 2nd off the rim and game over. It was really fun game to watch. Both teams ran and played good defense, but both also became undisciplined at times resulting in mad scramble type hoops.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 07, 2019, 05:43:36 AM
Tigers got a good early test from StoRox, winning 57-56 on a FT by Anthony Franchi with 1 sec left. BF's breaking in all new Gs after losing all of last year's to graduation. They probably did their best ball-handling with Mo Harris and Isiah Sharp at G. They had some trouble with Sto's press as Sto was really quick to the ball. I think that caught BF's kids off guard. The game got a little out of control and scrambly at times as both teams play tight defense and like to run. BF got a terrific game from D'Mitri Nesmith. He looks like a totally different player than last year. I was told he had double digit rebounds and points. The kids did a nice job passing the ball to get the open shot. The FT shooting needs work, though. Had they made their FTs, the game likely wouldn't have come down to a last second win. They generally rebounded well on both ends. They did a nice job remembering to bounce the ball off a nearby opponent to retain possession, something they haven't been good at doing the past few years.

LP beat BH by about 20 pts, so we'll see how BF/BH goes this evening.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 07, 2019, 05:55:55 AM
Here's the opening roster, although it may be subject to change at some point:

Noah Vaughan, F Sr
Darius Nesmith, F, Sr
Razir Jones, G, Sr
Colton Novak, G, Sr
Mike Conley, G, Jr
Cam Glass, C, Jr
Kai Hauser, F, Jr
Anthony Franchi, F, So
Maurice Harris, G, So
Jabarhi Cleckley, F, So
D'Mitri Nesmith, C,
Isiah Sharp, G, Fr
J'ai McKenzie, F
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 07, 2019, 09:57:31 AM
D'Mitri had 17 pts and 10 reb for BF.  He has really shot up.  The junior is now 6 ft 4 and still growing.

Sto is ranked 2nd in AA so that's exactly the kind of team and competition for a young team like us.

Whitehawk will be a nice test tonight.  4A team that is a playoff contender.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 07, 2019, 12:36:19 PM
D'Mitri Nesmith looks like another person this season. I was told he worked out this summer and went to a few basketball camps. It really shows he put in a lot of work. Tigers were a bit short-handed last night as Glass is just back from a foot injury and Dom Mazzei must be hurt again. Kyzer got kicked off the team for too much lip. Vaughn sat out the first 5 minutes for a similar reason. The big key to the season will be how the young guards, Harris and Sharp develop. Neither is lacking in confidence, just experience.

I went to see the 9th graders scrimmage Mohawk. Mohawk was not much of a test as BF was way too quick and fast for them. Even with that, the PG, an 8th grader named Harris, was a 1 man blitz kreig. I don't know how many steals he had, but he looks like he'll be a pretty good player. Kai Hauser's brother is also playing for the 9th grade team, but not sure what grade he's in. There's 2 8th graders on the team.

As for Sto, they are good team. They all had a long football season, losing to Clairton at Heinz Field. They don't have their basketball legs quite yet. They are going to beat good teams above them in class.


Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 07, 2019, 04:31:03 PM
Cleckley has been kicked off the team?
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 07, 2019, 09:31:38 PM
Yes, that's what I was told albeit not by the coach. He hasn't suited up for either game although he was at Midland on Friday sitting in the stands. It's possible he's just suspended, I suppose.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 07, 2019, 09:48:56 PM
Went down to Geneva to catch the games. I saw the 2nd half of StoRox vs Sewickley Academy. Sto won by 10 but the game wasn't that close. Sto again showed a lot of quickness on defense resulting in steals. Their trap is pretty effective. They're "handsy" like New Castle. SWAC doesn't look like they have much or maybe they're just young.

Second game was QV vs Sharpsville. QV won by 20+. They were too fast for Sharpsville. I don't know how competitve they'll be in 4A, maybe good, but not great. They have a big kid at center, but he's more of a perimeter than post player and not overly athletic. Thieou the soph PG lead them with 24 pts. He can score, but not sure what kind of PG he is as he wasn't asked to bring the ball up the floor much. It was hard to get a read since Sharpsville wasn't a big test.

BF played Blackhawk in game 3 and won 55-42. BH lead after the 1st qtr, but BF took the lead in the 2nd qtr and wasn't behind again. Tigers did not shoot well or the game might not have even been as close as it was. They played good defense and I think BH was kind of worn out at the end. The older Heckathorn probably had close to half their points. Conley got hot for BF in the 2nd half and probably led them in scoring. Vaughan hit a couple big 3s in the first half to keep BH from getting on a run. Tigers were strong on the boards except for missing a few lay ups and put backs. There were a lot of well executed plays and good passes for easy points. They did a good job against BH's press. They look well coached on what to do. Tigers are 2 for 2 in the battle of 15010 so far.

Stayed a to see a little of PR vs Penn Hills. PR has a bunch of kids who all look to be in the 6' to 6'3" range. They didn't look quite as quick or athletic as PH. A half-court offense vs a run-oriented one.

PH beat PR 66-65.

LP over Hickory 76-63. Hickory hit 10 3s. Score by qtr seems to indicate game was close most of the way.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: Tiger4Lyfe on December 08, 2019, 11:46:16 AM
good job beating the Cougars!

Still champs of the 15010

yeah Heckathorn kid is good, he's played on AAU teams with BF boys when he was younger. He still might play with them, Idk.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 08, 2019, 03:26:43 PM
Dom Henderson needs to recruit some of those boys before they get to 9th grade.  ;D
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 10, 2019, 10:41:51 PM
Tigers took it on the chin from New Castle this evening losing by 25 or so. NC shot the lights out. I don't know how many 3s they hit, but it must have been double digits. Credit to them for hitting the open long range shots BF gave them. Cox and Wells had 50 of NC's 70 some points. I guess I'll look on the plus side that BF only lost by 25 instead of getting mercy-ruled as both teams played starters until near the very end.

Tigers could have played better on defense. They just left too many wide open uncontested 3s and NC hit them. Hopefully the game is a learning experience for them. The fact that BF has no experienced true Gs really hurt them. I think they might be better off just going with a rotation of Harris and Sharp at PG and take their lumps for a few games. If anything is their achilles heel this season, it will be the PG play.

I don't really know how 4A stacks up outside of Beaver County, but I'm not sure who will challenge NC assuming their 3 pt shooting holds up. Ambridge is big and could give them trouble if they can handle NC's pressure.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 11, 2019, 06:11:41 AM
Bfgrad, I am not sure our defense was bad.  I just believe NC was so good on offense and their ability to make the extra pass and find the open man was more of the reason.  NC and Blundo was playing chess while Jeter and our kids were playing checkers.  We were totally outclassed and that was a clinic.

Good news?  It means nothing as its just a learning experience.  I am disappointed that it wasn't more competitive.  Last night only strengthens my thought that #1 Butler and #4 Pine Richland will boat race as well later this month.  Two blowouts in the making.

I agree we need to give Sharp and Harris more minutes at PG.  Aside from Conley, they have no one reliable to bring the ball up the floor.  I am impressed with Conley, who had 17.  The 6 ft 2 junior can score the ball and was blowing by NC defenders for buckets.  He will be trouble for 3A teams. 

They should roll at New Brighton Thursday then next Tuesday at Highlands, ranked #2 in 4A, could be another ugly game, but you never know.

On a side note, Cleckley has been kicked off the team.  6 ft 4, 250 lb starting center but lazy and a bad attitude.  Good for Jeter not to put up with his crap.  This team is better off playing younger kids than a senior who doesn't care.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 11, 2019, 07:39:44 AM
I was impressed BF was getting points inside and rebounds and they forced some turnovers. At some point, the Tigers are going to run up against another team that runs and presses like NC, so it's good to know what to expect. And, BF did beat NC back in fall league. NC didn't have Wells because of football, but that says they can hang with them. On defense, the kids simply weren't disciplined enough to stick with their man.

But, there is really not much that you can do when a team is just not missing many shots (50% from the floor and 12 3s). This game reminded me a lot of the playoff game vs Farrell up at NC about 10 years. Farrell made 8 straight 3s, that I doubt many expected would happen, and that was the game.

I think PG play will improve once BF gets in some JV games where Harris and Sharp will play a lot of minutes. They're 3 games in and not a single JV game yet.

I'm not surprised Jeter parted ways with Kyzer. He didn't put up with nonsense from his own kids; he's not going to do it with his players.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 11, 2019, 08:32:08 AM
BF had 25 turnovers last night which really illustrates just how bad our guard play was last night.  New Castle was extremely good with their hands and pick-pocketed us many times AFTER we got control of a rebound or loose ball.  Getting the ball inbounds was a challenge as well for us last night.

I didn't realize Wells is only a sophomore....wow...he had 26.  That kid is special.  And a freshman, Boice, had 16 points for them.  Cox is only a junior and he had 21.  They may be moving up to 5A next season but they will be fine.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 13, 2019, 03:54:39 AM
Tigers beat NB 54-36. No other details as I didn't go.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 13, 2019, 06:28:30 AM
You didn't miss much, bfgrad.  Just an awful game to watch.  90 minutes of my life I will never get back.

BF was sloppy from the beginning and NB was even worse.  BF simply put has NO guards that can comfortably bring the ball up and run the offense.  And because of that, they have no transition game.

Michael Conley is without a doubt their best all-around player.  He is the only one that can beat someone off the dribble and score the ball.  Nobody else can on this team.  Thank god he's only a junior. 

Jeter dumbfounded me with his starting lineup.  Dmitri did not start.  Cam did at center.  He had 2 pts and 5 fouls.  No idea why he even plays as many minutes as he does.  Nice kid but a struggle on the court putting it mildly.

Jeter has to let Sharp and Harris play more.  I know they are only a freshman and sophomore but it will pay off next year and beyond.  BF isn't winning anything this year.  However, next year is a different story with 8 of top 10 returning and Lincoln Park moving up most likely. Biega did the same thing with Cook and Cottrill when they were freshman and it paid off in 2012 with a WPIAL title and WPIAL and PIAA title in 2013.  I remember how bad Cook looked his freshman year in 2010.  He could barely bring the ball up.  Nevertheless,  you gotta have guards more than anything else.  Jeter needs to develop them this year and beyond.  They are very hard to watch on offense as they are so disjointed and have no identity.  Jeter's lineups are a result of that.  He starts a 5 where only one kid can handle ball.  Need at least two FFS. Makes zero sense.

It's very early, but BF is far from a quality team IMHO.  Last year's team improved and I expect this team to do the same.  How much?  I am not sure because they need to develop at least a second offensive threat.  Last year, they had Jaylin, Jordan and Gage.  Their improvement depends upon that important item.

Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 13, 2019, 05:35:22 PM
In Cam's defense, he hasn't played a lot of ball since June when he had surgery on his shoulder he hurt in AAU, then he returned and hurt his foot. I think not having Dom Mazzei, too, hurts a bit as he was playing well over the summer and fall and part of a group that was working with Sheldon before school every day.

I agree about that good guard play is the key. Harris and Sharp are good guards and Mo has at least grown some so he's not at such a height disadvantage. I personally would probably start any 2 of the Nesmiths, Vaughan, Hauser or Glass and rotate the group of them in and out, then Razir Jones as my defensive specialist, Conley at PG and a rotation of Harris/Sharp at the other guard.

I would not judge the season by a game vs NB that I'm betting the kids didn't take all the seriously.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 13, 2019, 07:10:18 PM
Stop it lol...

Cam is awful and Dom won't see the floor either.  These are JV players at best, nothing more than that.  I don't care if they were working with Sheldon.  Shaq shot hundreds of FTs per day but he still stunk from the line.  Sometimes it doesn't matter how hard you work at something.

Good teams should be blowing out teams like NB.  Laurel beat them 71-34.  Enough said. 
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 14, 2019, 10:33:38 AM
That's a ridiculous comment and you know it. Honestly, you watch 2 games and think it's the end of the world.
Cam isn't "awful" and Dom isn't either. These are the same kids who played on a JV team that lost 1 game all last season. I watched them play all summer and fall. Did you? BF won by 20 points at NB, so what is wasn't pretty? And who cares what the score against Laurel was? It's not relevent to anything.
 
BTW, Aliquippa lost to Ellwood at home last night.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 14, 2019, 11:27:42 AM
First and foremost, relax lol.  I am not sure who took a leak in your cereal today but it wasn't me.  What is ridiculous is the fact you think my opinion is ridiculous.

It doesn't take much to see Cam is extremely challenged as a basketball player.  While he has height, there is little coordination, skill or strength with his game.  He's a nice kid but please don't tell me he's a good player.  Good players don't have a stat sheet of 2 pts and 5 fouls against a pathetic team like NB.  That's my final thought in regards to this young man.

And I didn't say Dom is awful.  I just don't see him a part of this year's rotation for various reasons.  In addition, he has been injured it seems like every year.  It is a shame but his knee just can't sustain the constant strain that comes with playing hoops.

I don't need to watch meaningless summer league games to observe and evaluate talent or lack thereof.  Please take the rose colored glasses off when it comes to hoops.  i am being objective in my observation of this team thus far.  What have I said so far that is untrue?  They have no guards, one player who can score the ball, and the rest are offensively challenged.  Is any of that false?  They average 53 ppg thru 4 games because of the issues I just stated.  The BF teams that were rolling with tremendous guard play in the past averaged around 75 ppg. 

When BF is only scoring 54 points against a horrible team like NB, it is tough to watch.  The level of talent has just decreased so much the last few years at BF.  You have to agree with that.  There's no Slappy, Johnson, Lance, Todd, Sheldon, Cook, Cotttrill, Creach or Donovan coming up.  That's the real reason Doug left.  He saw the writing on the wall and got out before the talent level dropped significantly.  What he coached from 2001 thru 2017 was an incredible run of basketball studs and athletes.  Those kids don't exist right now at BF.  We were very spoiled for a number of years.

And who cares about Quip losing to Ellwood.  That just tells me they stink this year losing to that sorry program.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 17, 2019, 07:55:35 PM
Highlands 28
BF 5

End 1st

Cannot remember us losing this bad after 1st quarter ever..even in the down years before Biega came aboard.  And one of those years we went 3-19.

Here's the scary part.  Their best player, 6 ft 6 Crise, is suspended tonight.  Cussed at ref and ejected last game.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 17, 2019, 08:15:07 PM
Highlands up 50-21 at half....ouch.

Competitive 2nd qtr at least.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 17, 2019, 09:20:28 PM
Highlands 82
BF 60

Final

Horrendous 1st qtr is the difference.

Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 18, 2019, 11:45:27 AM
Definitely disappointing given how the kids played hard and together over the summer and fall, and, with basically only 2 additions after football season.

Things figured to be somewhat rough given all the experienced guards (who did most of the scoring, too) graduated and having to break in new guards or even finding kids to handle the ball. They weren't, and don't appear to be, a good shooting team although they do have a few kids like Conley, Jones and Vaughan who can get hot. Compounding that is their big guys aren't great ball-handlers either. I was surprised to see Livingston show up in the box score. I know Jeter wanted him to come out because he has PG experience, but when he wasn't on the opening roster, figured he just decided to stick with football.

Tigers are going to have to win with relentless defense and points off turnovers. They can't take even 1 play off and hope to be competitive. I think they could actually roll 8-10 kids and wear opponents out. We'll see how it all plays out and if the kids can right their ship.

Recap of game at Highlands. As bftigers said, being down 19-0, then 28-5 after 1 qtr did them in. https://tribhssn.triblive.com/highlands-uses-balanced-attack-to-hammer-beaver-falls/
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 21, 2019, 06:39:06 AM
Tigers beat Ellwood City 52-38 after EC scored a couple meaningless buckets near the end. BF generally played good defense especially on EC's little PG keeping him from finding the open guy. BF made EC work hard for every shot. Jeter also rolled 10 kids and 12 played. It wore EC down by the 4th qtr. Tigers left a lot of points on the floor from missing too many put back baskets. They got offensive rebounds, but couldn't always finish. Sharp started at G and played pretty well although Conely remained the main ball-handler.

There've been a couple roster changes with Shileak Livingston and Tyler Cain joining the team from football. I think once he gets his basketball legs, Livingston will see more time at PG. He's strong from football and played PG up through the BF basketball program. Harris got kicked off the team after a verbal argument with the JV coach that either party probably could have racheted down, but c'est la vie.

Recap: https://www.timesonline.com/sports/20191220/beaver-falls-defense-blankets-ellwood-city-in-52-38-win
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 21, 2019, 05:11:03 PM
BF 51
Moon 48

Final

Shocked we beat the defending state champs in 5A.  I know they lost everyone but still a nice win.  We were up 28-19 at half as well.

Improves to 5-2.

Jr Michael Conley 13
So Anthony Franchi 12
Sr Noah Vaughan 11

Hosts Blackhawk Monday night.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 21, 2019, 05:54:53 PM
Went to the game at Moon. Moon looked pretty young and inexperienced. Kaufman will get what there is out of them, but I don't see them being much of a factor in 5A this season. BF again played solid defense, but, yoi! the missed lay ups. If not for those, the game probably isn't close. The refs were pretty determined not to let basketball be a contact sport, calling a ton of PFs. There were 13 in the 3rd qtr alone and both teams were in the double bonus early into the 4th qtr. BF made a few dumb decisions with the ball that helped let Moon back in the game.

Vaughan made the go ahead basket with 5 secs to go and then the +1 FT. All in all a good win and a tight game they can learn from. The kids are looking a lot better and Jeter seems to have settled on about 10 man rotation that will wear a lot of teams down by the 4th qtr.

On to the 3rd battle of 15010 Monday.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 23, 2019, 09:09:52 PM
In the third installment of the 15010 game this year, counting football, BF prevails 59-51 over Blackhawk, completing the 2-game sweep in hoops plus beating them on the gridiron.

BF played their best quarter of the year to open the game going up 19-11.  Then we got away from what was successful in the first qtr and struggled mightily in the 2nd.  We only scored 4 pts in the 2nd qtr...tied at 23 at half.

Then BF came out strong in the 3rd going up 11, 38-27.  Blackhawk continued to battle back and cut it to 3 at 46-43  in the 4th.  BF beat their press for some easy shots late in the game to pull away.

Senior Razier Jones had 17, Junior Kai Hauser had 12 in his best game of the year.  Sophomore Anthony Franchi continues to develop as he chipped in 12 pts and timely buckets and FTs.

BF improves to 6-2 and is slowly starting to play better.  However, they have 2 blowouts awaiting them this weekend vs Butler and Pine Richland. STUPID scheduling to stay in the CJ Betters tourney.  Then they start the new year at Lincoln Park so it'll be 6-5 heading into the first full week of 2020.

Getting two wins vs Bhawk, beating Sto Rox and starting out 2-0 in the section is what's most important.

Merry Christmas to all of you!
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 24, 2019, 07:55:58 AM
BF won over BH 59-51. That makes BF 3-0 and champs of 15010 with 2 wins in hoops and 1 in football. A nice Christmas present for us Tiger lifers.  :D

It was a good competitive game, though. BH played pretty solid defense and created more turnovers than I expected, but BF's defense was better as they held BH's best scorer, Fedisin, in check and made life hard for their PG Borello. Anthony Franchi was on Fedisin most of the game and did a terrific job guarding him while scoring 12 pts of his own. Razir Jones lead BF with 17 pts and was a creating havoc on defense all over the court. Kai Hauser had a strong game inside with rebounds and put backs. Vaughan played well on the boards, but his shooting eye has been off so far, but credit to him that he's not letting that effect his play in any other area. BF didn't rotate as many kids in and out as they have been. Overall, BF played a pretty complete game, probably their best of the season. Right now, their biggest bug-a-boo is finishing around the rim. If they'd made half of their misses, it's an easy double digit win.

They have a couple of tough tests coming up Friday and Sat at the CJ Betters RBA vs Butler at 5 on Friday and PR at 3 on Sat.

Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 24, 2019, 08:03:44 AM
Here is an updated roster:

Noah Vaughan - Sr
Razir Jones - Sr
Darius Nesmith - Sr
Colton Novak - Sr
Mike Conley - Jr
Kai Hauser - Jr
Shileak Livingston - Jr
Cam Glass - Jr
D'Mitri Nesmith - So
Anthony Franchi - So
Jabahri Cleckley - So
J'ai McKenzie - So
Ayendi Chaney - So
Tyler Cain - So
Xavier Collins - So (JV)
David McDonald - So (JV)
Isiah Sharp - Fr

Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 27, 2019, 07:13:42 PM
Lazy scheduling by our AD.  We play Whitehawk twice.  Stupid.  And the Betters tourney is even worse.  BF is going to get boat-raced by Pine Richland and Butler. 

It's a total joke and the kids will learn nothing losing by 30 each game to 6A juggernauts.  BF is no longer elite and can't compete with the upper echelon.

Play teams you have a chance to win and/or can compete against.  That's all I'm saying.  I don't want to hear it doesn't matter, they are exhibition, blah blah blah.  Do better in terms of scheduling.

Playing teams like New Castle, Whitehawk (ONCE), Highlands and Sto-Rox are good opponents.  PR and Butler? JOKE.

Looks like I was EXACTLY right about playing Pine Richland.   

Pine Richland 76
BF 46

Butler boat race tomorrow at 5:30.  Ethan Morton might not play but that won't matter much.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 28, 2019, 09:34:25 AM
Not unexpectedly, BF lost to PR. Tigers played tough defense holding PR to 0 (or 1) 3s in the first half. The play was not as lopsided as the final score might indicate although the game did get away in the 4th qtr after BF made a little run to get within 13. BF shot about 30% (17 of 53) from the field and you are not going to win many games that way. Tigers did a good job breaking PR's press as well. They rebounded pretty well and blocked a few shots. They just do not have anyone right now who can step up and make shots. Razir Jones had a real nice game, though. And the FT shooting has improved.

PR's a good shooting team and they are competent handling the ball. They're not a real tall team considering they are 6A, most of the kids between 6' and 6'4.

Recap from the Times: https://www.timesonline.com/sports/20191227/betters-classic-another-challenge-for-young-beaver-falls-squad
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on December 28, 2019, 05:52:29 PM
Beaver Falls scores a come from behind 74-70 win over the top ranked team in 6A Butler. Tigers trailed by as many as 16. Michael Conley led Beaver Falls with 24, Noah Vaughn had 14. Devin Carney led Butler with 26, Mason Montag with 15.

I stand corrected as I expected a rout.  Ethan Morton did not play for Butler but that's a great win for us nonetheless.

Congrats to the kids and staff.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on December 28, 2019, 06:46:00 PM
Tigers came back from a 22-6 1st qtr deficit to beat Butler 74-70. BF was up 72-70 with about 5.5 secs to play when Conley missed the front end of a 1 and 1, but Razir Jones grabbed the rebound was fouled and made both shots. A last desperation 3 from Butler missed its mark making the final score.

No doubt Butler's a different team if Morton plays, but the BF kids played hard and never quit even when down by 16 early. Tonight their shooting was better and they hit a couple 3s and finished better around the rim. Vaughan was strong on the boards as was Hauser who had a nice game scoring inside. BF pressured more than against PR and forced some Butler turnovers. Overall the kids played a very good game and earned the win.

Butler looks pedestrian without Morton although the Clement boys are good shots and all around players.

Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on January 03, 2020, 09:48:43 PM
Lincoln Park 72
BF 59

BF jumped out to a 9-0 lead then was up 19-9 before reality hit them.  34-29 LP at half and up 52-40 after 3.  Nevertheless, BF played hard and was very competitive on the road.  Last year, they lost 78-43 there so major improvement by the kids. 

Junior Michael Conley had 17 and senior Razier Jones had 11 but the other 2 seniors just are not playing well at all.  This team is loaded with underclassmen so hopefully, it'll pay off next year.

Big one vs Neshannock next Tuesday.  BF drops to 7-4 and 2-1 in section.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 04, 2020, 10:49:39 AM
This was just a terrific game to watch. Both teams going at it tooth and nail and neither giving an inch. Both teams were disciplined and it was a well-officiated game.

Despite losing, BF played a really strong game. They made LP work hard for their win and the game was closer than the final score might indicate. Mike Conley played a great game running the offense, playing defense, scoring rebounding, everything a coach could ask of a player. Hauser and Franchi did a terrific job taking Wilder out of the game on defense. He finished with 9 pts and both Tigers chipped in on offense with 6 and 9 pts respectively.

I thought LP out-3'ed BF, but they had 6 3s to BF's 5. and a couple more FTs made. The difference really came down to 3-4 put backs LP got from Mathos and the ones that wouldn't/didn't fall for BF. LP's experience helped them as well. But, make no mistake, LP had to work very hard for the win.

BF looked confident from the start and that should only increase as they proved to themselves they can stay with LP. If Vaughan can find his shooting eye and with the continued growth of freshman PG Isiah Sharp, this team will make serious noise in the playoffs.

Recap from the Times: https://www.timesonline.com/sports/20200103/lincoln-park-tops-beaver-falls-in-key-section-battle
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on January 04, 2020, 01:20:35 PM
Bfgrad, in addition to those putbacks and missed layups, the end of quarter sequences really hurt them in the first half.  Smith hit a late 3 in the first qtr because we rushed a shot.  In the 2nd qtr, Mathos hit a late bucket after we couldn't take care of the ball.  5 points in those two examples...34-29 LP at half.

Over the years, Biega's teams got away with that most times because they were so good.  This team has little margin of error so doing the little things right against better teams is a must.

The development of Sharp and Conley hopefully will improve those end of quarter sequences.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 04, 2020, 02:51:14 PM
I'm happy with the improvement in the outside shooting. That will keep teams from collapsing into a zone. They ran their set offense well overall and got a surprising number of open lanes right to the hoop. The FT shooting has improved, too. Conley's playing really, really well and Jeter's asking a lot of him to run the offense and also guard the opponent's best player. Last night he was on Smith and did a pretty good job. Credit to Smith for hitting the shots when he had them. I think once Shileak Livingston gets his basketball legs, he'll help more often. He's played PG and is strong on the ball and fast enough to play tight defense.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 08, 2020, 05:49:48 AM
Tigers beat Neshannock 53-34. It was a good win after an intense game last Friday vs LP. It took awhile for BF to get rolling as they lead only 20-17 at halftime, but they had more energy in the second half outscoring Neshannock 34-18. Neshannock's coach rolled about 10 players, but even so, they looked worn out by halftime from having to work hard for every shot. Turk, probably Neshannock's best player, was held to 5 pts, 1 trey and 2 late FTs.

BF had to play most of the first half without Conley who picked up 2 early PFs. Franchi had to sit out as well with a couple PFs, but Sharp, Jones and Livingston filled in well. Jones and Hauser had 14 pts and Sharp 10. BF's offense still is a work in progress, but the kids were making nice passes to open teammates for easy baskets. They also made some bad passes and were sometimes lacksadical with the ball. The defense contiues to be their bread and butter. Neshannock is primarily an outside shooting team, but were held to just 2 3s and 10 baskets overall. Isiah Sharp is growing as a PG, he's already got good court awareness and a nice shot. Last night he was driving to the hoop and scored a couple pretty baskets off that.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on January 08, 2020, 06:38:07 AM
If last night proved anything, it's that the offense runs through Conley.  BF really struggled in the first half with him sitting the last 12 minutes.  His first foul was really ticky tacky.  That officiating crew was one of the worst I have ever seen.  Nevertheless, once Conley got into the flow of the game in the 3rd quarter, BF was a different team on offense.  Losing Franchi due to foul trouble pretty much for 3 quarters hurt as well.

The development of Hauser and the freshman Sharp has been nice to watch.  Sharp is much more aggressive and the game is slowing down for him.  Hauser is becoming the perfect garbage guy underneath.  I am not sure what has happened to Dmitri Nesmith.  He had 17 and 10 vs Sto Rox in the first game and has basically been invisible since that performance.  He doesn't look confident at all when he gets in there.  His older brother needs to play better as well and stop taking threes.  That goes for Noah.  Get inside and do damage with their height and size.

BF probably wins last night by 30 if Conley and Franchi play the first half.  All in all, a very nice win after a tough loss.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 08, 2020, 10:16:08 AM
D'mitri Nesmith's been playing full JV games and looking great. He could just be a little tired when he gets into the varsity games. I'm thinking both he and Sharp should start playing just the first half of JV games in the near future. Sharp's rapidly becoming a real good PG and he can shoot, too. He's gotten taller as well and looks to be about 5'10" now. Vaughan hasn't been scoring but he's compensating by playing good defense, rebounding and passing well. I think the kids generally are playing an unselfish, team game. I think BF is rounding into a pretty good team.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 10, 2020, 11:27:23 PM
Tigers won over Riverside 71-56. Riverside was helped immensely by the 17 FTs they made in 25 attempts or the game would've been more lopsided. Riverside was scrappy, though. Their center blocked a bunch of shots; he showed a knack for it. They made a couple of runs to get with a basket or two of BF, but couldn't get over the hump.

Noah Vaughan had a big game for BF with 27 pts including 4 3's. If he can repeat that, it will be a huge lift for the Tigers. No one else scored in double digits, but I think Jeter had every player in the game at some point.

Tuesday, BF finishes the first half of the season with a game at home against Aliquippa.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on January 11, 2020, 12:15:59 AM
Jeter has to shorten his bench to 7-8 deep.  He played 12 kids and it wasn't because he emptied the bench.  That is just way too many unless it's a blowout.  His peculiar substitutions at the beginning of the 2nd qtr allowed Riverside to get back in the game.  Playing JV kids made no sense.  They had a little foul trouble but not enough to put those kids in there.

And he has to give Sharp more minutes.  He is really coming into his own as a freshman.  He is simply electric with the ball.  In addition, BF needs Dmitri Nesmith to get his confidence back and last night was a step in that direction.

Noah was incredible.  Best game of his career.  However, could the staff please teach PUMP FAKES?  The Riverside center must have had 10 blocks and not once did we try to draw him in the air.  And stop trying to dunk!!!  It cost us 4 points and one miss was when we were up 29-25.  This isn't Jeter or Creach FFS.  The coaches need to stop that now rather than slapping their hand when they come out of the game.

Free throw shooting continues to be a problem as we shot 8 for 16.  It would be nice to see us around 70% as a team.
 
Tuesday should be a wild rat race vs Quip.  Hoping our kids keep their cool and composure.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: BFClass on January 14, 2020, 03:27:14 AM
Any thoughts from bfgrad and bftigers on the Quip game tonight? Always interested in what you have to say.

We are finally going to make it to our first game to see the Tigers play.
Plan to arrive a little early in case of a crowd.
From the last roster bfgrad posted and the past two weeks of posts, looks like the BF players to watch are: Conley, Sharp, Hauser, Jones, Vaughn, D'Mitri Nesmith, Livinston, and Franchi depending upon who gets hot?
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 14, 2020, 05:34:07 AM
It should be a fast-paced game as both teams like to run and press. Conley's BF's best all-around player; Franchi's been getting the job of guarding the other team's best player; Hauser and the other forwards will have their hands full with Fisher inside.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on January 14, 2020, 05:59:22 AM
It should be a fast-paced game as both teams like to run and press. Conley's BF's best all-around player; Franchi's been getting the job of guarding the other team's best player; Hauser and the other forwards will have their hands full with Fisher inside.

Pretty much agree with the post above.  Rat race and frenetic pace between these teams.  Fisher is going to be a huge problem inside.  It might not be a bad idea to go zone if our press isn't working.  Quip has zero shooters and it could help with Fisher inside.

BF has to stay out of foul trouble as well.  The last couple games it has been an issue.  Just hope Jeter doesn't go crazy and play 10-12 kids.  Keep it at 8 and get after them.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 14, 2020, 10:41:29 PM
Tigers won over Aliquippa 57-36. The Quips were game, but they just are not a very good shooting team. They were really bad from the FT line, too. Fisher basically held them in the game. Noah Vaughan did a good job defending Fisher in the match up of big, strong boys. Vaughan also lead BF in scoring and was again strong on the boards. Tigers guards are rounding into shape. At the start of the season, it was all on Conley, but now Franchi and Jones are better at handling the ball and Livingston and Sharp are capable of running the offense. Fr Sharp is growing as a PG every game. Everyone fawns over Thiero of QV, but Sharp is becoming every bit as good.

A nice win for BF to finish the first half at 5-1 in the section and 10-4 overall. They will have a tough road game at Neshannock, but get LP at home. The finale at Aliquippa may or may not be meaningful although I'm sure the kids will want to win it. I myself won't be surprised if BF ends up playing in the WPIAL title game at The Pete.

Game recap from the Times: https://www.timesonline.com/sports/20200114/vaughn-tigers-take-round-one-against-quips
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on January 16, 2020, 06:09:53 AM
The key to BF's surge right now is Noah Vaughan.  He is starting to get back his game since the ACL injury last year that forced him to miss all of last season until the last few games in the playoffs.  His shot has improved (when he doesn't force it).  His rebounding and defense have also been instrumental.  Every team needs senior leadership and Noah is giving it to BF right now.

Now if they can somehow get Darius Nesmith, another senior, back to where he was at the end of last year, they could really be dangerous.  His hands and decision making (missing dunks instead of just laying it in) have to improve.

I do agree with bfgrad that their ball handling has improved.  Their decision making can be shaky, like forcing shots up when leading by double digits vs Quip in the 4th, but that can be corrected.  Conley, Livingston, Jones and Sharp can all bring it up the floor.

Speaking of Sharp, the freshman is on track to become a special player and the kind of player BF fans have been used to seeing over the last couple decades.  I still contend Jeter should play him more.  His shot and ball handling are improving as you would expect with a young player.  Hopefully, he can get to around 6 ft in the next couple years as he is around 5 ft 8 now. 

Personally, I think this team has a real chance to get to the semifinals.  But beating Lincoln Park or North Catholic to get to the Pete?  Contrary to my fellow alum, that would surprise me.  I still believe we are a year away from getting the chance to win it all, especially given that LP and NC are moving to 4A next year.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 16, 2020, 09:52:45 AM
I'll remain optimistic about making it to the Pete.  :) The kids are playing well, and, as importantly, listening to the coaches. I agree about Noah playing better and adding that leadership component that all good teams need. He seems to have accepted the roles and assignments Jeter has given him in pursuit of team goals.

That said, after NB at home on Friday, two big road games, at Neshannock, always a tough place to play, and at EC, then home against LP. Neshannock gave LP a tussle at LP on Tuesday. BF can't sleep on them or Ellwood for that matter.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on January 16, 2020, 11:25:01 AM
That is not how their schedule goes.  They have NB home tomorrow, then travel to Ellwood next Friday.  The following week is LP home on January 28 then traveling to Neshannock on January 31.

Nevertheless, every game is big from here on out.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 16, 2020, 12:48:17 PM
Just pointing out Tigers have 2 road games that they can't take lightly.

Mike Bires mentioned BF in his column today, too. https://www.timesonline.com/sports/20200115/mike-bires-bf-tigers-just-might-be-wpial-championship-contenders
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on January 16, 2020, 02:23:14 PM
Just pointing out Tigers have 2 road games that they can't take lightly.

Mike Bires mentioned BF in his column today, too. https://www.timesonline.com/sports/20200115/mike-bires-bf-tigers-just-might-be-wpial-championship-contenders

Oh, I gotcha.  Well, BF isn't good enough to take anyone lightly.  They struggled to beat a 2-win NB team pulling away in the 4th quarter.  Ellwood and Neshannock are not as good as BF, but Neshannock in their gym is just a different animal.  That will be every bit as tough as it will be playing Lincoln Park at home for different reasons.  And you know Ellwood will be all fired up when we enter the gym just like Riverside was on their home floor last Friday.

They just need to keep the mindset of getting better everyday AND be coachable.  Practice, games, etc.  That needs to be the thought process.  If they do that, they will be fine. 
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 17, 2020, 10:41:36 PM
Tigers rolled over NB 75-36 with the 4th qtr being a reprise of the JV game. A lot of playground hoops as both teams were out to run and gun. BF did play what's becoming its usual stifling defense, though. There were some nice passes to open teammates, but the order of the night was shoot, shoot, shoot. Hard to draw any definitive conclusions because of that, but BF is showing more ability to make the outside shots which will help when they face opponents who will play some version of a zone to make the Tigers beat them from outside.

No game until next Friday at Ellwood City since our AD is apparently too disinterested to find an opponent, leaving BF with only 19 games of a possible 22.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on January 17, 2020, 11:17:42 PM
I thought BF played a tremendous game tonight against a bad opponent.  The first game vs NB was so ugly and tonight illustrated how improved BF has become in the last month.  We go a legit 9 deep in the rotation and everyone seems to know their role and responsibilities.

I never thought I would say this but we have a legit chance to beat Lincoln Park at home on January 28.  We will see, but these kids are fun to watch.

As far as our scheduling, we will play 20 games, not 19.  It's embarrassing that our AD failed to schedule 22 games.  This team doesn't need a week off.  They need to keep playing.  It's a joke.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 18, 2020, 06:43:51 AM
Sometimes it takes half the season for a team to gel. At the beginning of the season, guard play was a question mark, but Conley has grown into the PG role even though he'd rather not be in it. Sharp is improving every game and Livingston has been a real good surprise at PG, too. Vaughan getting his basketball legs has been a big key. His all around play is getting better and better. They are playing as a team, not individuals.

Tigers can't fall into a trap game at EC next Friday, though. If they get through that, the gym should be packed for the game vs LP on Tuesday. I have to give some props to the students, they are showing up for games and creating a great atmosphere. They were nuts last night.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 24, 2020, 09:19:33 PM
Didn't go to the game, but WBVP reports BF 63, EC 41.

Blurb from the Trib:
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Beaver Falls 63, Ellwood City 41 Noah Vaughn scored 19 and Razir Jones added 12 to help No. 4 Beaver Falls (12-4, 7-1) to a Section 1-3A win. Nate Coonfare had 13 for Ellwood City (8-9, 4-5).
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on January 25, 2020, 07:34:05 AM
I made it to the game and it was needless to say, one of the more puzzling games I have seen Jeter coach.

BF came out flying for a 19-6 first quarter lead.  It continued into the second by going up 30-9 but Jeter took a timeout for whatever reason.  BF led at the half 35-16.  Noah had 18 at half.  Then at the start of the third quarter, Jeter had 3 starters on the bench..Noah, Conley and Franchi. He proceeded to play 3 JV kids for the majority of the quarter.  Everyone in the stands was flabbergasted.  Our 3 starters never played a second in the quarter.  Fortunately, Razier scored 8-10 points in that quarter to carry us.

Those 3 started the final quarter but Noah was subbed for not even 2 minutes into the quarter. Franchi and Conley struggled in the final frame.  They had no flow of the game whatsoever.  It was puzzling to say the least.  BF could have easily scored close to 80 tonight with starters playing the minutes they should be getting.

BF had not played in a week so to sit starters and give JV kids meaningful minutes isn't going to help...trust me.  Jeter started subbing only 2 minutes into the game.  Kids aren't even warmed up yet or in the flow of the game.  The JV kids that were playing will not factor into their playoff rotation.  If they do, then we are in huge trouble.

Jeter needs to get his rotation set NOW.  8 man rotation and no more.  Starters should be Hauser, Noah, Razier, Conley and Franchi.  Bench guys should be Sharp, Shaliek and Darius.  Roll with that.  We have a huge game at home vs Lincoln Park University on Tuesday and still have road games at Quip and Neshannock.  Enough with the science experiments on the floor.  This team has a chance to make a deep run this year.  Jeter and the staff have really done a nice job developing them. However, the time is now to set your playoff rotation and move forward.

And last but not least, we all saw one of the strangest things after the game.  Walking in the hallway after the game, Jeter approached an unhappy parent to discuss God knows what.  His son played around 25 minutes so it couldn't have been playing time.  His other son should have played more considering what JV kids played, but whatever. 

Minutes after a game, I have never seen a head coach talking with a parent in the hallway in front of hundreds of fans.  It easily was the strangest thing I have ever seen.  That is a private conversation for another time.  Jeter should be in the locker room with his team rather than talking with a parent.  That parent should feel fortunate his oldest son plays as much as he does. He would be on the floor no more than 10 minutes for me.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 28, 2020, 11:15:31 PM
Tigers could not get the job done vs LP tonight, losing 73-53. BF got off track early when one of their best defenders, Anthony Franchi fell awkwardly and twisted his knee. At first the fans I was sitting near thought he'd torn ligaments or tendons, but apparently it is a relatively minor injury, one he's had before and no ligament/tendon injuries. That injury just seemed to throw the whole defensive game plan off, though, as BF did not play its best defensive game. It also messed up the G rotation and caused Livingston to have to play nearly 2 full games (JV, varsity) with Conley having some early PF trouble.

The game was pretty chippy and Cam Glass, normally pretty laid back, got into it with Reddix from LP as both tusseled for the ball on a rebound, and was ejected for throwing punches. BF got within 5 or 6 in the 4th qtr, but then went cold missing baskets their last 6 or 7 trips down the court to end the game, thus the final margin. At the end, LP was just holding the ball running out the clock when Mathos decided he'd put an exclamation dunk on the game. For his stupidity, he got a T for hanging on the rim and (surprising to me) chewed out by Bariski.

File this away for future reference and move on to focus on winning at Neshannock on Friday.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on January 31, 2020, 08:47:51 PM
Neshannock 69
BF 63

BF is really missing Anthony Franchi.  He is our best defensive player and his absence the last 2 games have exposed us on defense.  MRI results on his knee will come back next week.  Guard Shaliek Livingston did not play as well but will be back next week.

BF led 52-45 at the end of 3rd so not to close it out is very disappointing.  Neshannock was 7 for 8 from 3 pt line in the first half.  To put in perspective the difference on our defense with Franchi, Neshannock scored 35 pts in our first game as we beat them by 19.  They had that at half tonight en route to 69.

Forget about that 3 seed talk lol.  They can win a first round playoff game.  However, it is a crapshoot after that if Franchi is done.  He's only a sophomore so it may be best for him to sit.  It's the same knee he injured last year.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on January 31, 2020, 08:57:27 PM
Neshannock is a tough place to play because the gym is such a bandbox and they are not a terrible team. I can't say I'm surprised BF lost.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on February 04, 2020, 11:22:33 PM
BF closed out its home game regular season with a 71-60 win over Riverside. BF was up by 20 with a couple minutes to go when Jeter put his seniors in for a couple possessions so he could take them out for a final round of applause. Before he did it, he went over to Riverside's coach and let him know so they didn't think BF was trying to run up the score. At the very end, the players at the end of Riverside's bench got in and both teams made way for him to score except it took a few tries and the basket he made was probably after the buzzer, but it was counted. It was a really nice display of sportsmanship to see BF kids pass him the ball so he could score.

At halftime, the 50th Anniversary of the 1970 PIAA Clas A (now 6A) State Champs was acknowledged. A couple of the players from that team were introduced and got a nice round of applause. I got to see the great Steeler teams of the 70s and been at the 1971 and 1979 World Series, but nothing will ever be as fun as following those '69-'70 Tigers through the 1 game playoff to win the section, then throughout the playoffs and onto the Farm Show Arena and defeating Haverford.

As for the game, Tigers jumped out to a big lead, but saw Riverside whittle away to being down by 6 until the kids buckled down and closed the game out. Riverside's center had a career game with about 30 pts. Jones and Conley led BF in scoring and Vaughan played a good all-around game. Tigers were a bit short-handed with Franchi and Livingston out with injuries and Hauser having to sit out after getting into some trouble at school today.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on February 04, 2020, 11:38:20 PM
Right now in 1-3A, LP has clinched 1st, BF is 2nd at 8-3, Neshannock and Aliquippa 7-4.

BF is at Aliquippa and LP at Neshannock on Friday.

If BF beats Aliquippa, they finish 2nd regardless.

If BF loses to Aliquippa and LP beat Neshannock, BF and Aliquippa tie for 2nd, Neshannock is 4th.

If BF loses to Aliquippa and Neshannock beats LP, all three teams finish 8-4 but Aliquippa owns the tiebreaker over Neshannock, BF has split with both teams.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on February 07, 2020, 09:22:40 PM
Just listened on the radio, but sounded like the BF-Aliquippa game set basketball back a few decades with Aliquippa winning 49-35. Tigers seemed out of it from the start, maybe playing after not being in school all day or having a playoff spot locked up or whatever. I think even if Neshannock beats LP, they'll be 4th as they lose the tie-breaker to Aliquippa, the BF and Aliquippa tie for 2nd having split their 2 games.

Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on February 07, 2020, 10:16:30 PM
Not being in school is why they scored 35 points in 32 minutes?  Come on bfgrad, you're smarter than that.  Jeter had zero clue how to handle Quip's pressure and made ZERO adjustments during a HORRIBLE first half.  15 points in the first 16 minutes is all you need to know.

Here's the scary part about tonight...Quip played WITHOUT their starting backcourt.  Yet they kicked our ass from the second quarter until the finish.  It was as embarrassing of a performance BF has had in a long time given that they are supposed to be one of the top teams in AAA.

Jeter runs zero sets on offense and has no concept how to attack certain defenses.  It's just streetball, plain and simple. 

BF is heading the wrong way this season.  It started in the Ellwood game two weeks ago when Jeter was subbing like he was getting paid per substitute.  It was maddening to watch starters sit the entire second quarter.  Jeter called a timeout up 30-9 and put the JV team in.  He did it again this past Tuesday vs Riverside up 34-13 in the second quarter and eventually our lead was cut to 6 points.  I just don't get it at all.  Never have I seen substitution patterns like Jeter has done.  This time of year you want to shorten your bench,  go 7-8 deep and start to hit your stride for playoff time.  Instead of that, Jeter is playing 11 or 12 kids, 4 or 5 who have no business playing in a varsity game.  It's bewildering.  We have no ebb and flow on offense and tonight cemented that reality.  But when I see our coach in the hallway talking with a disgruntled parent minutes after the Ellwood game, it tells me all I need to know.

And speaking of that parent, his son started tonight over our best power forward.  What makes it worst is Jeter had our best power forward START A JV GAME.  Who starts one of their best varsity players in a JV game this late in the season?  I've simply never seen anything like what is going on right now with BF basketball.

BF has been hurt by the injury to Franchi.  He is their best defensive player.  Nevertheless, there's no reason to lose 3 of their last 4 with a 4th qtr collapse at Neshannock, blowing a 7 point lead, and tonight's excrement sandwich at Quip.  We beat Neshannock by 19 and Quip by 21 the first time around but fell flat on our faces in the rematches.

Hard to see Jeter leading this team past the second round after what I have witnessed the last two weeks.  The man is coaching like it is summer league games.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on February 11, 2020, 08:12:18 PM
Not a bad draw at 6 for BF at all.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on February 11, 2020, 08:48:24 PM
Bfgrad, I could not agree more.  Very favorable draw for losing 3 of their last 4.

Southmoreland is 11-11.  Already spoke to a few people and they said BF should roll.  We will see.

Need to get Franchi back healthy for that second round game with South Allegheny.  50/50 chance I was told.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on February 14, 2020, 10:16:51 PM
Tigers beat S'moreland 70-59 althought BF was up by 20 starting the 4th qtr. Jeter put his JVs in for the final 2 minutes while S'moreland kept their starters in, making the final a bit closer than the game was.

Overall BF played well. They moved the ball pretty crisply and didn't take many bad shots. Hauser and Vaughan both had strong games on the boards. Hauser is getting good at put backs and Vaughan led BF in scoring with 23. Freshman PG Isiah Sharp had a terrific game, very controlled and confident. He had some really nice assists that showed how high his basketball IQ is. Conley was steady as he has been for the better part of the season.

I don't think it was BF's best defensive showing as they allowed SM's best player to score 33 pts, more than half his team's points. Of course, they are missing Franchi and Livingston is playing through a toe issue. They'll need to tighten their defense up as they move along in the playoffs.

SM shot a ton of FTs, 24 of 30. In fact, their high scorer made 1 more FT than the team had total baskets.

From what I was told, there is some confusion about exactly what kind of knee injury Franchi has, but it doesn't appear that he'll be able to play vs SA and maybe not for another couple of weeks at best.

Trib recap: https://tribhssn.triblive.com/beaver-falls-powers-past-southmoreland-in-boys-opening-round-matchup/

Times recap: https://www.timesonline.com/sports/20200214/noah-vaughanrsquos-inside-game-powers-beaver-falls-to-victory

Stayed to watch the 1st qtr of S Allegheny vs Avonworth. SA has a tall skinny kid at center, similar to Riverside's center, but not as strong. They appeared to have more athletic talent than Avonworth, but Avonworth was handing with them.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on February 15, 2020, 06:23:37 AM
Bfgrad, I watched the game on my phone thanks to the Trib website and that was a sloppy first quarter by BF.  They looked lethargic. Their play in the second improved but the final 2 minutes of the first half were undisciplined. Their inability to hold for the last shot astounds me.  It's basketball 101 when you are up by 10 or 11.

I definitely agree with you about Vaughan, Hauser and the freshman Sharp.  Conley played an outstanding game on both ends as well.  Franchi's injury hurts them because it forces Jeter to play someone more than he deserves.  I'm not saying names but you know who I'm talking about.  Nevertheless, Jeter is still playing way too many kids and continues to coach like it's summer league games. I keep saying it should be a set 7 man rotation but Jeter plays 9-10 kids and there's no rhyme or reason with his substitution patterns.  Even Jeter admits all this in his postgame interview he did with Don Rebel.  It's in bfgrad's previous post in the Trib link. That's why they struggle to get into any rhythm on offense.  Me and many others, including former coaches, just don't get it.  PLAY YOUR BEST 7 OR 8 AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT A JV KID GETTING PLAYOFF EXPERIENCE...IT'S ABSURD.  His interview says it all.

I watched the South Allegheny/Avonworth game.  I was not impressed at all.  Avonworth blew that game missing 5 FTs in the 3rd quarter and open looks in the 4th.  And for whatever reason, they fouled SA with 20 seconds left in a tie game 25 feet away from the cup that led to the game winning FTs.  They also broke SA's press with ease by putting someone in the middle and going baseline to baseline.  Fortunately for SA, Avonworth only had one true athlete on the floor.  The others were stocky football players and lanky bodies.  But they were very well coached. 

SA decided to play stall ball with the game tied at 40 with 4 minutes left.  Let that sink in...a 21-1 team stopped playing against an 11-11 team.  It's only one game but based off what I saw, SA would struggle to make the playoffs in our section. 

So what's this all mean? Nothing if Jeter continues to do what he's doing.  SA has two players...Faulkner inside and Antonio Epps at guard.  The younger Epps, who is a freshman, can handle it well and is a nice point guard.  But that's all they have.  Conley should guard the older Epps, Sharp on the younger Epps and body Faulkner up with Vaughan and Hauser.  I was done with that scouting report in the first 5 minutes of their game.

BF should win.  They have the better players and team.  However, I just don't trust Jeter.  He's going to play kids and give them huge minutes when they should not be playing or others who should just come in for a couple minutes at most.  Will he shorten his bench and play to win or worry about getting young kids playoff experience and play too many kids?  It's become sad I even have to ask that question this time of year.

We will see on Thursday night.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bftigers on February 15, 2020, 08:49:34 AM
I just finished watching the game again and I am not quite sure how anyone would think we played well overall.  Even Don Rebel observed during the telecast how "lax" we were in the 3rd quarter and the color guy said it looked like a JV game late in the 1st.  We would have a spurt here and there, but overall we were sloppy.  10 second violation bringing the ball up despite only token pressure, throwing the ball away at times against no pressure and lazy defense.  Our positioning is awful where instead of face guarding the dribbler, we are sideways and they go right past us...makes zero sense.

The end of quarter sequences are just as bad.  We had 4 possessions in the final minute of the first quarter but Southmoreland had a few as well.  In the second quarter, we rushed a shot with 30 seconds left in the half.  That allowed Southmoreland to cut it to 7 at half.  No coaching there at all in those two examples.  Hold for the last shot and eliminate any extra possessions for the opponent.

He started Shaliek, played a few minutes, then sat the rest of the half.  Then he starts the second half, only to get pulled 1 minute later.  It makes no sense.  He also subbed for another starter at the same time.  Why are you subbing 60 seconds into a quarter?  No wonder we can't sustain any offensive flow.

Their best stretches were when Vaughan and Hauser was doing damage down low in the second half.  That has to continue against South Allegheny and 6 ft 5 Faulkner.

Nevertheless, the coaching strategy has to improve and they have to play much better on both ends of the floor to beat South Allegheny.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on February 15, 2020, 01:33:39 PM
Shileak picked up 2 early PFs, that's why he was on the bench for most of the 1st half. They did make a few mistakes like the timeline violation and not catching passes, but overall, they did a good job moving the ball around looking for shots and they dominated the boards. The game got close a couple times, but the outcome was never really in doubt.

Refs were calling a ton of fouls on BF which is why there were a lot of players in and out.
Title: Re: 2019-2020 BF Tigers Basketball
Post by: bfgrad on February 21, 2020, 11:51:00 AM
Tough loss to SA on a shot thrown up at the buzzer and very similar to the way BF lost to Indiana in the WPIAL finals a few years ago. It was a nip and tuck game most of the way. Tigers were within a point late in the 1st qtr when just a terrible sequence resulted in 6 straight SA points including a turnover right after an inbounds allowing SA to score with just a second or two left in the qtr to go up 18-11.

Still, Tigers were up 7 with under 3 minutes to play when they went into a pretty deliberate offense moving the ball around the perimeter looking to either drive to the hoop or shoot. SA did a good job taking away the lane though and got a turnover and missed shot to score to tie before Hauser put BF back up by 2 before SA tied the game at 58. BF had the ball for last shot, but their freshman PG fumbled the ball losing it out of bounds with 15 secs left setting up the game winning sequence. Unfortunately for BF, the missed 3 just resulted in one of those long rebounds, right place, right time for SA. Despite the loss, Noah Vaughan played a spectacular game, scored nearly half BF's points on 7 3s. Really he single-handedly kept BF in the game when SA looked ready to go on a run or pull away.

I think losing Franchi and Livingston not at 100% due to a foot problem hurt BF as much as anything. It left them really short at G and forced Conley to have to be the main ball-handler and also to guard the other team's best player. At lot to ask of a kid. Sharp did a good job defensively on his freshman counterpart, but his mistakes hurt.

We shall see what the semis and finals bring as far as pulling BF into the PIAAs. SA has won two games they probably should have lost so I expect their clock is about to strike midnight, but you never know.

If this is a wrap for the season, it was lots of fun. The kids played hard every game and had some good wins along the way. Best of luck to the 4 seniors, Noah Vaughan, Darius Nesmith, Razir Jones and Colton Novak in the next phase of their lives.