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Title: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 05, 2019, 07:02:04 PM
What do you think guys? Are you ready for some hockey? I know I am. Training camp starts September 13th and their first preseason game will be September 16th against the Buffalo Sabres.

I know YIG and bfgrad I can count on you guys for some insight and wisdom. Any thoughts on the upcoming season? Me personally, I think this team's success will depend on if Malkin shows up this year. I know it is hard to pin a season on one man but Malkin needs to take some of the pressure off of Crosby. Matt Murray IMO also needs to be better all season and not just the second half like last season. Be nice to also see him make it through a season injury free

We are already getting reports on how good of shape Letang is in. Almost like how reporters would throw rumors about Lemieux being in great shape! LOL. Galchenyuk is being raved about by his team mates on his hard work. Looking forward to seeing where Galchenyul, Kahun and Tanev fit in and where

Penguins seem to be flying under the radar this season as there are some "experts" thinking they will even miss the playoffs. A lot of teams got a lot better around the Penguins but as long as they have Crosby and GMJR is willing to deal, I can't pick the Pens to miss the playoffs. As for me, not making it to at least the 2nd round of the playoffs is a disappointment for me but I am hoping they can sneak up on some teams and win some games early. A stumble out of the block will not be good for Sullivan as he has pretty much got rid of some players and got the team he wants for the most part.   

I don't have season tickets this time but I already have tickets for October 19th to see them play Fleury and the Golden Knights!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on September 05, 2019, 07:34:57 PM
Agree on just about everything that you said. The only name I did not see in your post of potential boom/bust is Murray...hopefully entering the season healthy and with a good mindset. Entire team though definitely flying under the radar after their early exit last spring.

As you know my worry a bit is that other teams in the division will be or at least may be better (Philly, New Jersey, NYR immediately come to mind) and that's also assuming that Washington isn't going away and the Islanders and Hurricanes have tremendous coaching regardless if their rosters are better worse or the same.

With all of that said though no need for gloom and doom. I absolutely expect at least a playoff birth then they can go from there.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 05, 2019, 09:07:41 PM
Agree on just about everything that you said. The only name I did not see in your post of potential boom/bust is Murray...hopefully entering the season healthy and with a good mindset. Entire team though definitely flying under the radar after their early exit last spring.

As you know my worry a bit is that other teams in the division will be or at least may be better (Philly, New Jersey, NYR immediately come to mind) and that's also assuming that Washington isn't going away and the Islanders and Hurricanes have tremendous coaching regardless if their rosters are better worse or the same.

With all of that said though no need for gloom and doom. I absolutely expect at least a playoff birth then they can go from there.


Oh, he's in there. Talked about him after Malkin basically saying he needs to put a full season together playing well versus bad the first half, really good the second half and horrible in the playoffs. And would also like to see him stay healthy all season
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on September 05, 2019, 09:57:47 PM
Oops completely missed that haha.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 07, 2019, 01:02:29 PM
I haven't put my thoughts together yet. I want to see what happens with Pettersson and Schultz and the d-men, if anything, before the season. Something is going to have to give to get Pettersson signed.

Murray's a big key. He has to be consistent in goal. Malkin should be ok with Galchenyk and TBD wing. Crosby will likely have a big year between Guentzel and McCann. I think the bottom 6 should be better with the new guys. I like that ZAR, Simon, etc will have to compete for jobs. We'll see if the Pens buy into "responsible" hockey or they tune Sullivan out.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 10, 2019, 12:20:14 PM
Article I just read gives me a little more excitement for next season for the Pens and how Malkin will play

Apparently, Malkin was fed up with Kessel and being in the middle of the Kessel - Sullivan feuds. Malkin believed Kessel was content with winning 2 cups and was only in it now for his stats. Malkin felt that Kessel was "dragging him down" and he did not want to be seen as being in it just for stats if he kept playing with Kessel. Rumor is Malkin requested to be traded if he was going to be forced to play with Kessel. That's all pretty huge IMO.

If all of this is true, this might be a huge year for Malkin and maybe a weight was lifted off the players shoulders when Kessel was shipped off to Arizona
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 10, 2019, 06:16:43 PM
Where, if I might ask, did you read that?
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 10, 2019, 09:32:01 PM
Where, if I might ask, did you read that?


MSN had a link of it in their local news section. Rob Rossi ( who Iím not a fan of) wrote it. Madden also talked about it today during his show. Before I go to bed tonight Iíll try to find the article again and post a link
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 10, 2019, 11:30:17 PM
Here is the article out of SB Nation that quoted Rob Rossi's article from the athletic:

 https://www.pensburgh.com/2019/9/10/20858998/evgeni-malkin-trade-rumors-penguins-phil-kessel-rocky-complicated-relationship-nhl-mike-sullivan
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 11, 2019, 07:18:58 AM
Thanks. I don't give Rossi much credibility and I think Pensburgh was appropriately skeptical of what he wrote. I can believe Malkin and Sullivan butted heads, but I don't believe the part about Kessel. All reports were that Kessel was liked in "the room", if a bit quirky. Kessel seems to wear out his welcome with coaches, not teammates from what I've gathered.

Madden has often been critical, and xenophobic, when it comes to Malkin. I'm not surprised he'd jump on this story.

I can believe Malkin does get lonely. He strikes me as someone still very attached to his birthplace, family and friends in Russia. In that respect, he's not that different from the many western Pennsylvanians who had to leave the area over the years and remain deeply attached to it. It's too bad there's not a bigger Russian diaspora in the Pittsburgh area to give him a taste of home away from home.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 11, 2019, 07:59:11 AM
There was definitely something going on with the way the team played last season but as you said, I am also not a fan of Rossi but he does have a good relationship with Malkin. I do believe the part where Kessel was content and just wanted to pad his stats and keep his game streak going and that was all he worried about so I could see that causing a rift with other players

I said it before that I am glad he is gone and I believe the team will be better without him or at least that is what I am hoping
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on September 11, 2019, 09:18:42 AM
The game streak thing does bother me to some extent. As admirable as, say, Cal Ripken's game streak was, that had to suck for a manager to essentially not be allowed to bench him/rest him during a slump or an injury. Or Brett Favre, sometimes doing his team more harm than good by playing though injury. Hockey players, Kessel included, are so darned tough that it is tougher to just "sit" them the way that a manager could sit a shortstop for any reason, but if any lesson ever that I have learned from going too hard in the regular season is the 1992-1993 Pens  (coached by the greatest coach of all time Scotty Bowman none the less) going all out during their 17 game winning streak and trying to win that President's Trophy then not being rested/healthy for the playoffs. There is an added level of selfishness (a'la Kessel or Favre or Ripken) when the games streak takes precedence over all else. I guess that there is a fine like between pride and selfishness sometimes, and the above players probably straddled that line a bit at times. It is what it is.

With that said I think that Kessel is a winner. I think that his track record of playoff success shows that. I agree with bf that I just don't see what Rossi said being true regarding "only worrying about stats." If anything, Kessel historically has been more impressive in games that count vs games that would be ideal for stat padding. Or at least that's what I recall about him.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 11, 2019, 01:14:47 PM
Kessel helped the Pens win 2 Cups. I'm not going to knock him. Maybe we've already forgotten Kessel's excellent playmaking skills. He didn't just score goals, he set them up, too, with great passing. A selfish player doesn't do that, imho.

TBH, if you want to point to an  "selfish" (on offense) type player on the team, Letang fits that mold better than Kessel. He's always rushing up ice with the puck, many times paying no attention to the situation or score and getting the team burned as a result.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 11, 2019, 05:20:04 PM
Couldnít agree more about Letang. His 100 foot passes that are always getting picked off just drive me nuts. Never been a fan of Letang and it will be really interesting to see what Pens management does when his contract is up in a few years
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 12, 2019, 09:54:35 PM
Pens sign Petterssen to a 1 yr deal 875k. Presumably there's something of a verbal agreement to do a longer term deal after this season what with Schultz likely to leave as a UFA next summer or a later trade involving another player.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 14, 2019, 12:16:40 PM
Granted it is only day 2 of training camp but word coming from camp so far is that Kahun is looking really good on the top line with Crosby and Guentzel. Galchenyuk and Malkin are also looking really good together. Sullivan started out with Rust on the 2nd line but later took him off and replaced him with Tanev and the 2nd line started looking much better. Malkin is saying Tanev is the fastest skater he has played with. Signs are not looking too good for Rust and Hornqvist to play on the top 2 lines

Only possible bad thing I'm hearing so far is Sullivan is persistent in keeping Johnson with Letang. I'm not a fan of either so we'll see how that works out
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 15, 2019, 05:01:33 PM
Seperated at birth

Mason Rudolph
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/2017-0717-Big12MD-MasonRudolph.jpg/1200px-2017-0717-Big12MD-MasonRudolph.jpg

Sidney Crosby
https://cdnolympic.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/crosby_sidney.jpg?quality=100
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 15, 2019, 05:07:57 PM
That's funny. He looks like Crosby on a weightlifting bulk up program!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 16, 2019, 05:05:27 PM
Can't believe Chase Berger wasn't on the essentially no name squad the Pens are sending to Pegula Arena at Penn St tonight. It's not like Berger didn't play 4 years of college hockey there. Not a class move by the team at all.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 19, 2019, 08:02:59 PM
Penguins playing a preseason game against Columbus tonight and so far what is standing out to me is the play of Galchenyuk. In a short time it looks like he has really good chemistry with Malkin and he is playing the left side on the power play where Kessel used to be. Has a really quick shot and scored a power play goal
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 20, 2019, 03:40:43 AM
Agree about Malkin and Galchenyk, but Tanev seemed like a fish out of water with them. I would probably try flipping him and McCann, who's also fast and defensively responsible and showed last season with Sid he's got the skill to play top 4 winger.

Missed the 3rd period, but the players who were most noticeable to me were Malkin, Bjugstand, Borkqvist, Legare, Marino, Guentzel, Gudbranson. Schultz still doesn't look quite right to me. Hornqvist looks fully recoverd. PO Joseph played better than I expected although he is skinny. Poulin and Legare appear very solidly built, not the Pens usual undersized wingers.

Let me add, Warsofsky is still a terrible defenseman.

Pens definitely look faster than last year, maybe hungrier, too.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 21, 2019, 08:15:00 PM
During today's game, the broadcasters showed footage of Kasper Borqvist working out. He might not be the tallest guy, but he's solid and could be a bodybuilder if not for being a hockey player. He's been noticeable in both games vs CBJ as opposed to Kahun who's been mostly invisible.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 22, 2019, 09:17:30 AM
During today's game, the broadcasters showed footage of Kasper Borqvist working out. He might not be the tallest guy, but he's solid and could be a bodybuilder if not for being a hockey player. He's been noticeable in both games vs CBJ as opposed to Kahun who's been mostly invisible.

I agree about Kahun. I thought he looked good against Buffalo but has been invisible these past two games

DeSmith played in goal the whole game yesterday and I thought he looked good. I would like to see more of Jarry today but I think no matter how well he plays he will be going back to Wilkes-Barre
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 23, 2019, 06:07:43 PM
Cuts getting down to 27 per Trib:

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Forwards: Andrew Agozzino, Justin Almeida, Anthony Angello, Kasper Bjorkqvist, Joseph Blandisi, Joseph Cramarossa, Thomas Di Pauli, Ryan Haggerty, Sam Lafferty, Jake Lucchini, Sam Miletic, Oula Palve.

Defensemen: Niclas Almari, Kevin Czuczman, Pierre-Olivier Joseph, David Warsofsky.

Goaltender: Emil Larmi.

Agozzino, Blandisi, Cramarossa, Czuczman, Di Pauli, Haggerty and Warsofsky must clear waivers by noon on Tuesday before reporting to Wilkes-Barre/Scranton.

Poulin and Legare both signed ELCs, but were returned to their junior teams.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 24, 2019, 08:27:59 AM
Cuts getting down to 27 per Trib:

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Forwards: Andrew Agozzino, Justin Almeida, Anthony Angello, Kasper Bjorkqvist, Joseph Blandisi, Joseph Cramarossa, Thomas Di Pauli, Ryan Haggerty, Sam Lafferty, Jake Lucchini, Sam Miletic, Oula Palve.

Defensemen: Niclas Almari, Kevin Czuczman, Pierre-Olivier Joseph, David Warsofsky.

Goaltender: Emil Larmi.

Agozzino, Blandisi, Cramarossa, Czuczman, Di Pauli, Haggerty and Warsofsky must clear waivers by noon on Tuesday before reporting to Wilkes-Barre/Scranton.

Poulin and Legare both signed ELCs, but were returned to their junior teams.


Defenseman Marino who was acquired from Edmonton made the cut. He has been playing really good this preseason and it may be too early to say this but he may grow into a nice replacement for Letang when his contract is up or maybe next season is Schultz moves on. What do you think bfgrad?
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 24, 2019, 03:37:00 PM
I think the more likely scenario is the Pens see Marino as a possible replacement for Schultz, who I believe is in his final season in Pgh. Both are puck-moving RD and Marino is 7 years younger. Ruhwedel is more a stop-gap RD when injuries hit.

I think Pens see Addison as Letang's eventual successor.

Gudbranson gives them a toughness they've lacked since Reeves was traded.

Schultz is a UFA after this season and either likely to move on then or be part of a trade during the season.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 27, 2019, 10:54:29 AM
Report on NHL.com that GMJR is looking to trade either DeSmith or Jarry before the regular season all three goalies (including Murray) would have to clear waivers to be sent back down. They are also reporting that he is willing to trade other players like Rust, Johnson and Bjustad to stay under the cap. Season starts in a week so I guess we will see if anything happens
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on September 27, 2019, 12:03:31 PM
I realize that they want to recover value but losing DeSmith on waivers would not be the worst thing...that would be one way to free up cap room without moving Johnson (I realize that trading Johnson is most ideal, but it takes two to tango).
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 27, 2019, 11:31:58 PM
I think they want to move DeSmith. The difference between his and Jarry's lower salary will get them under the cap, I believe. I read that there've been a lot of competent goalies waived so far and none have been claimed.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 28, 2019, 04:57:36 PM
Buffalo brought their B team and A game. Pens dressed their A team, but brought their still asleep afternoon F game.

Is it just me or does Kahun look like a complete bust? I thought he was fast, but he looks like he's skating in sand. Kahun's the kind of return you get in salary dump trade, though, I suppose.

Tanev doesn't look much better although I think he's being forced into a top 6 forward slot where he doesn't belong. I'm not seeing the hitting, pesky game he's supposed to bring. He'd probably be better off with Bugjustad and Hornqvist and McCann moving to Crosby's other wing.

Don't like Petterssen and Schultz as a pair at all. There's nothing wrong with 3 competent pairs of d-men playing roughly equal minutes. Letang-Dumo, Schultz-Johnson, Petterssen-Gudbranson. If they like Marino enough, maybe Rutherford works a trade for Schultz, not JJ.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 28, 2019, 08:19:28 PM
Ya, I havenít been impressed with Kahun or Tanev either. Maybe GMJR will trying hard to trade Rust and open up a spot on the bottom 6. I do like the way Hornqvist has been playing. Maybe he is playing his way into a top 6 spot

I think they are trying to force a Johnson and Letang pairing which I do t think is going to work. I would also love to see Marino make the team. I think he has been playing really good
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 28, 2019, 09:24:52 PM
Someone on the TV side was talking about Kahun and his ability to manuever in tight spots, etc. It was exactly the same way Simon is described. Instead of 1 Dominic Simon, the Pens apparently now have 2. I haven't seen any chemistry with Tanev/Kahun with Crosby or Malkin although Kahun looked a lot better when McCann moved to center after Crosby got hurt. Maybe he's intimidated playing with Sid.

Personally, last year, I thought Schultz and JJ weren't a bad pair. JJ brings a similar game to Cole. That more stay-at-home, physical game seems to suit Schultz. Thought Petterssen and Gudbranson brought a bruising style that the Pens have never really ever had. I think Marino is better served playing big minutes and in all situations in WBS. He can always be recalled in the event of injury.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: coach99 on September 29, 2019, 12:24:40 AM
How bad is Sydney hurt?   They never give you any info on injuries with Pens.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 29, 2019, 06:07:40 AM
How bad is Sydney hurt?   They never give you any info on injuries with Pens.


All I heard is that they are being evaluated today ( Crosby and Rust ). Both left the game after blocking shots. I'm sure if it is something major, we will hear about it today
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 29, 2019, 07:32:10 AM
I think Borque said Sid's foot got hit by a shot and Rust got smacked in the hand. Because Rust was given a towel on his way off the ice, Borque thought maybe Rust got a pressure cut on his hand.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 29, 2019, 04:51:39 PM
Sid with a foot injury, day-to-day. Rust has a hand injury, still being evaluated, but seems the more serious of the two.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 30, 2019, 02:36:30 PM
Just announced that Jarry wins the backup goalie job and DeSmith was put on waivers
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on September 30, 2019, 03:16:57 PM
Pretty amazing since Jarry hardly played in exhibition season, but expected since he makes less than DeSmith and is better insurance if/when Murray gets hurt. I expect DeSmith to clear waivers and be sent to WBS. 1.3M is a lot to spend on a back up goalie.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on September 30, 2019, 03:38:57 PM
Pretty amazing since Jarry hardly played in exhibition season, but expected since he makes less than DeSmith and is better insurance if/when Murray gets hurt. I expect DeSmith to clear waivers and be sent to WBS. 1.3M is a lot to spend on a back up goalie.


When he did play I thought he looked really good though
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on September 30, 2019, 05:17:26 PM
On a side note Anaheim placed Daniel Sprong on waivers today also. Maybe he wasn't the second coming haha...
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 01, 2019, 07:26:35 AM
I'd take Sprong back. It's not like the Pens are blessed with a plethora of wingers who are natural goal scorers.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 01, 2019, 08:32:40 PM
Nobody claimed DeSmith so he and I heard Marino are going to WBS

I would love to see Sprong back here but not with Sullivan as coach. He will never use him right. Same reason I feel Jarry is set to fail as the backup here. He will be always looking over his shoulder waiting to be pulled the same as Sullivan did to Fleury
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 02, 2019, 10:00:13 AM
Reportedly Rust will go on LTIR as soon as the roster is set and roster moves are allowed again.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on October 02, 2019, 10:30:23 AM
Sprong cleared waivers so he will be playing AHL hockey. Apparently 29 other teams plus Pittsburgh and Anaheim did not want him. I am sick and tired of Sullivan being blamed for not wanting Sprong when obviously no one does. It's not like his salary will break the bank ($575K).

Also this will be my chance to remind everyone that they acquired PETTERSON in the Sprong trade last season! If anything Sullivan/GMJR should be praised for their foresight regarding Sprong.

I like Sprong but he is nothing more than a middling prospect at best this point and no team in the NHL right now would be giving him anything more than a few 4th line minutes.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 02, 2019, 12:07:48 PM
Lots of players clear waivers right now as teams are getting cap compliant and setting their rosters. Casey DeSmith cleared waivers. It didn't mean he's not an NHL-caliber goalie. He proved last season that he was, even earning a 3 yr, 1.3M AAV contract.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 03, 2019, 04:45:29 AM
Fleury starts his season off with a win as he stops 21 of 22 shots and Vegas beats the Sharks 4-1 last night

Fleury now with 440 total wins (or 439. not sure if Quanthockey totals were updated yet). 15 more will get him in the top 5 all time (depending on how Lundqvist does as he is 9 wins in front of Fleury). Something to keep an eye on if you are still a fan of Fleury!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 03, 2019, 06:35:43 AM
Another interesting thing to watch this season when it kicks off tonight against Buffalo is Crosby is at 1,216 total points for his career. 446 goals and 770 assists. He would have to have a really good season but 84 points will get him to 1,300. A nice milestone to hit
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on October 03, 2019, 04:23:33 PM
Thanks for the MAF wins updates!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 03, 2019, 10:35:15 PM
Not a good start for the 2019-2020 season for the Penguins as they lose their home opener 3-1 to the Sabres. Didn't see much of the game as the baseball game I was umping ran late but from what I saw they did not look good at all and picked up where they left off from last season in giving up odd man chances time after time.

Maybe the biggest kick in the nuts was the #1 star was Connor Sheary!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 04, 2019, 06:47:49 AM
Pens played the way Sullivan wants, the forwards were coming back to help out the D and there was limited pinching from the points. Pens started slow, but tied the game up at 1-1 on a PP goal from Malkin. They were dominating Buff, then took 2 consecutive penalties. Buff scored on the 2nd and the Pens never recaptured the momentum. Pens did have some great scoring chances, but Hutton made the saves. Murray made some nice saves, but his glove hand is still shaky and he wasn't able to control rebounds when he could have.

Sid didn't look like himself probably due to the foot injury. He played between Hornqvist and Guentzel. Malkin looked good, all over the ice, shooting the puck and looked to have chemistry with Galchenyk and Tanev, who is really fast. Sullivan wants Malkin to be a grinder, though. Bluegar, ZAR and Simon were good together. They pinned Buff a few times. McCann had some great chances, but he belongs with Crosby and Guentzel. Hornqvist looked to be back on his game. Kahun was mostly invisible. Rust will replace him once he's off LTIR.

The D mostly played a simple game, not much pinching. Same pairs as last year Letang-Dumo, Schultz-JJ, Gudbranson-Petterssen.

Pens didn't play great or awful, just not good enough to win.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 04, 2019, 07:26:38 AM
Giving up 41 shots was not good either.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 04, 2019, 08:54:31 AM
Buffalo carried the play early. They were shooting a lot.

But, to me, the Penguis were playing the kind of safe game Sullivan wants.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 04, 2019, 10:41:04 AM
Buffalo carried the play early. They were shooting a lot.

But, to me, the Penguis were playing the kind of safe game Sullivan wants.


If that is the kind of game Sullivan wants them to play then it is going to be a long season for Penguins fans!

I also believe Johnson needs to be put on the 3rd defensive pair or in the press box. Him and Schultz do not look good together IMO.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 04, 2019, 02:00:10 PM
Well, Errey or Meares said on the telecast that Sullivan wants Malkin to play a "grinding" game. Frankly, I don't believe Sullivan has the foggiest idea how to coach skill players. IMHO, the reason he wants a grinding, defense first game is because that's what he was as a player and what he understands.

I'll speculate that the players will try it Sullivan's way for a few games, but if that doesn't produce wins, they'll go back to doing what they like to do.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 04, 2019, 06:16:26 PM
Just heard that at practice today Hornqvist was taken off the top line and Simon was put back on with Crosby

Looking like resigning Hornqvist and signing Johnson are going to be deals that will haunt GMJR
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 05, 2019, 03:20:39 AM
I'm not surprised at that move although McCann's the guy who should be with Sid and Guentzel. Simon actually looked pretty good with Bluegar and ZAR va Buff.

GMJR probably overpaid for Hornqvist, but they like the passion he brings. JJ's not making an exorbinant amount and he was ok with Schultz last season.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 05, 2019, 07:46:00 AM
In other NHL news:

Vegas takes the second game in a home at home against San Jose as they win 5-1 in San Jose. That was also Marc Andre Fleury's 800th NHL game and his 440th NHL win. Fleury is 6 wins away from passing Terry Sawchuck for 7th all time for goalie wins and stays 10 wins behind Lundqvist as he also won. Looks like both Lundqvist and Fleury will easily be in the top 5 in wins before the season is over
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 05, 2019, 07:48:33 AM
I'm not surprised at that move although McCann's the guy who should be with Sid and Guentzel. Simon actually looked pretty good with Bluegar and ZAR va Buff.

GMJR probably overpaid for Hornqvist, but they like the passion he brings. JJ's not making an exorbinant amount and he was ok with Schultz last season.

I like the passion he brings also but he is getting paid too much IMO to be a 3rd or 4th line guy. And IMO Johnson is getting paid way too much for how he is playing especially if you can substitute Johnson with Ruhwhedel or Rikkola and get the same thing or maybe better
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 05, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
Wasn't a fan of the JJ contract, but you have to admit he did step up last season after Schultz got hurt. I figure something's gotta give either Schultz or JJ gets traded because the Pens can't keep carrying 9D unless Sullivan plans to start dressing 11F and 7D. I'd say Gudbranson might be a trade candidate, but he really brings that toughness to the Pens they've mostly lacked
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 05, 2019, 08:09:11 PM
Johnson with the first goal of the game to give the Pens a 1-0 lead over the Blue Jackets. McCann with the assist

Petterson soon after gets the second goal. 2-0 Pens and 2 goals from Defenseman. Not a fan of the new goal song either. I liked Party Hard a lot more

And yes, I thought Johnson did play good the second half of the season. I will admit that
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 05, 2019, 08:18:39 PM
McCann gets an unassisted goal to make it 3-1 Pens

First goal was changed and given to Hornqvist. Johnson gets an assist
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 05, 2019, 08:33:32 PM
McCann with his second goal to make it 4-1 Pens. Right before the goal, Crosby went off for fighting as he was sticking up for Guentzel who take a shot to the head. Malkin also went off earlier as he went awkwardly into the boards so McCann has been playing venter and looking good doing it
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 05, 2019, 08:57:06 PM
Pens up 5-1 after two periods as Letang gets a late power play goal.

Amazing how bad the Pens can look one game and look like world beaters the next game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 05, 2019, 09:20:44 PM
Hornqvist gets his second goal of the game as the Pens lead now 6-1. Crosby and Guentzel get the assists

Make it 7-1 as Blueger scores. Not sure if the Pens are looking really good or the Blue Jackets are this bad!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 06, 2019, 08:58:07 AM
Pens win last night 7-2 over the Blue jackets. Not too much to say about the game except the injury report. We will see how Malkin and Bjugstad are

Next game is Tuesday against the Jets
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 06, 2019, 10:37:18 AM
Thought the Pens were pretty good last night. They had a lot more hop than in game 1. McCann looked excellent at center. He could make Bjugstad expendable if Bluegar continues to play well. Simon doesn't score, but he seems to fit with Sid and Guentzel. Then again, Dupuis didn't score much at first either. Maybe there's hope for Simon... Kahun still is looking kinda like a bust.

Thought they played smart and simple hockey and still got plenty of chances.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 06, 2019, 11:10:39 AM
Agree on all your points. I really liked McCann at center, Murray looked good and I liked the defensive pairings. Agree on Kahun also. He looks like he just doesnít fit right now but on the flip side, Tanev looks awesome and looks like he can play on any line.

Not gonna get too excited yet because they looked really bad against an improved Buffalo team and really good against a Columbus team that lost a bunch of good players. We will see how they play against a good Winnipeg team and go from there I guess
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 06, 2019, 04:39:19 PM
Tanev looks like the new Carl Hagelin.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 07, 2019, 03:42:35 PM
Malkin and Bjugstad it is being reported are both out on long term IR. Just says that Malikn won't miss the entire season and Bjugstad should be back before Malkin

I'm guessing McCann will be the second line center until Malkin is back
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 07, 2019, 05:37:55 PM
From Venzel at the PG:
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Coach Mike Sullivan announced after Mondayís practice that the 33-year-old will be out ďlonger termĒ with a lower-body injury suffered in Saturdayís 7-2 win over the Columbus Blue Jackets. The injury is not season-ending, Sullivan said.

Making matters worse for the Penguins, they also lost another center, Nick Bjugstad, against the Blue Jackets. He will be out ďlonger term,Ē too.

ďWe would expect Geno to be a little bit longer than Nick,Ē Sullivan added.

Both were placed on injured reserve Monday afternoon, and the Penguins called up forwards Sam Lafferty and Andrew Agozzino on an emergency basis from Wilkes-Barre/Scanton.

Now with all the legalized sports betting, I wonder how much longer the NHL can hold out with the deliberately vague injury reports? NFL coaches would love to do that, too, but pro football makes a lot of money off betting and bettors/bookies want good information to set odds, point spreads, etc, thus the coaches are required to disclose injuries and probabilities of injured players have of playing.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 08, 2019, 07:19:49 PM
Great way for the Pens to start as Crosby is able to direct a shot by Guentzel into the net and the Pens are able to take an early 1-0 lead over the Jets

Also looks like they will be leaning a lot on Crosby as he is being double shifted on the 1st and 4th lines
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 08, 2019, 07:31:09 PM
And now it turns bad as the Pens give up 2 quick goals and now are down 2-1 and also Hornqvist is out after being hit from a shot from Letang. Remember, Pens only started with 11 forwards
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 08, 2019, 07:37:08 PM
Just pee-wee level roster management by Rutherford and Sullivan. If they are that in love with Marino, then take offers for Schultz and send either Riikola or Ruhewedel to WBS, but don't keep 9 defensemen on the NHL roster. Marino could've been playing big minutes in WBS rather than sit in the pressbox in Pgh and been ready when injuries or performance dictated a recall.

The Pens so rarely dress 7D, unless one is an Ian Moran D/F type, they have no idea how to make that configuration line up work. To add to problem, Sullivan was intent on double-shifting Crosby.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 08, 2019, 07:50:43 PM
Just pee-wee level roster management by Rutherford and Sullivan. If they are that in love with Marino, then take offers for Schultz and send either Riikola or Ruhewedel to WBS, but don't keep 9 defensemen on the NHL roster. Marino could've been playing big minutes in WBS rather than sit in the pressbox in Pgh and been ready when injuries or performance dictated a recall.

The Pens so rarely dress 7D, unless one is an Ian Moran D/F type, they have no idea how to make that configuration line up work. To add to problem, Sullivan was intent on double-shifting Crosby.

Agree on Marino. Murray looked shaky in that first period also. Hopefully he can be better the rest of the way
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 08, 2019, 08:11:27 PM
Murray's weak glove side is back as he gives up another right under his glove and the Jets lead 3-1. Bob Errey is trying to make every excuse for Murray right now but it was just a bad goal to give up

Gonna be really hard for the Pens to come back from 2 goals down
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 08, 2019, 08:21:35 PM
Pens down to 9 forwards now as ZAR has left the ice and Hornqvist never came out for the 2nd period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 08, 2019, 08:43:38 PM
this game has officially gotten out of hand. 5-1 now Jets as Murray has no rebound control and gives up the 4th and then gives another one over the glove to make it 5-1

Pens challenging though as they think it was offsides. IMO, doesn't matter though. Murray looks really bad tonight

Offsides. No goal. Jets still up 4-1 though
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 08, 2019, 10:31:19 PM
So if the pens are going to go this way - Bad game, then a good game and then a bad game, this season won't be too promising. Jets were only able to take 22 shots but unfortunately 4 of them went in.

Pens are gonna have to figure out how to play without Malkin, Bjugstad and probably Hornqvist now for a while
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 08, 2019, 11:27:54 PM
Thought Murray was shaky, too. His glove hand and rebound control really aren't up to snuff.

Rutherford is going to have to retool the roster in a hurry. They can't afford to carry 9D, at least 1 has to be sent to WBS and even then 8 is too many. Don't call up yet another career AHL'er/fring NHL'er like Agozzino, bring up a prospect like Borkqvist and/or Bellrieve.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on October 10, 2019, 07:31:35 PM
Pens/Ducks tonight. I realize that most had this circled on their calendars as Daniel Sprong revenge night.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 10, 2019, 08:17:32 PM
Crosby scores on the power play but unfortunately the Ducks score 30 seconds later to tie the game back up 1-1
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 10, 2019, 09:02:55 PM
Pens and Ducks 1-1 after two periods. Really good deflection goal from Crosby but a bad goal given up by Murray as he was not close enough to the post and let the goal sneak past him
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 10, 2019, 09:17:25 PM
Guentzel with his first goal of the season gives the Pens a 2-1 lead. Crosby and Simon with the assists

Donít want to jinx it but Crosby has been racking up the points so far
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 10, 2019, 09:45:08 PM
Pens win 2-1 over the Ducks. A nice gritty win tonight for the Penguins.

Marino played over 16 minutes tonight. I really like the way he played and i think he is making his way to a permanent spot on the team
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 11, 2019, 11:01:14 AM
Pens played a nice, team game. They worked hard for their 1st goal and could've been crushed by Murray letting in a bad goal 30 seconds later to tie the game, but they weren't.

I have to say that Dominik Simon played an impressive game. He made skilled plays on both goals. On the winning goal, Simon did a great job getting the puck away from a Duck player and out to Sid.

I did notice that Ana took a lot of liberties with the Pens smaller players with Gudbranson being a healthy scratch. Wonder if Sullivan noticed that, too? I don't think Johnson or Agozzino hit the ice in the 3rd period. If Sullivan doesn't trust these 2 to play, they shouldn't have been recalled. He can't burn out Sid this early in the season.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 11, 2019, 09:20:43 PM
I feel that Marino and Rikkolla should be permanent fixtures on defense but GMJR is going to have a hard time n moving both Johnson and Gudbranson

I feel the only reason Johnson is still on the ice is because of his good penalty killing skills

I also agree on Crosby but man is he playing great right now. I also feel that if there is one person that wants to be on the ice as much as possible probably more than Letang is Crosby
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 12, 2019, 06:06:49 AM
Gudbranson is a deterent when he's on the ice. You don't want Crosby and Bluegar to have to be "enforcers". If Riikola is just going to be a healthy scratch, he should be sent down to WBS to play regular minutes.

If Rutherford wants a trade, he should be talking about moving Schultz. I like Schultz, but he's a pending UFA and some team will offer him more than the Pens want or maybe can afford to pay. Since they like Marino so much, he's a ready replacement and the Pens would at least be able to get a useful player in return.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on October 12, 2019, 10:43:38 AM
The only reason that I disagree on moving Schultz NOW is that if they are to make a run at the cup I'm sure they would envision him being part of it. Depending on the return of course.

With all of that said I am completely in agreement that I do not expect him to be a Penguin next season barring something else major happening. I agree completely that someone will overpay.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 12, 2019, 11:21:50 AM
Pens seem to be in love with Marino, so move Schultz. They don't have takers for Gudbranson or JJ and Schultz would bring a return.  They could return to their preferred R-L and offense-defense D pairs. Letang/Dumo. Petterssen/Gudbranson, JJ/Marino.

Also, Pens sent Agozzino back to WBS and recalled Blandisi.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 12, 2019, 02:46:35 PM
Pens seem to be in love with Marino, so move Schultz. They don't have takers for Gudbranson or JJ and Schultz would bring a return.  They could return to their preferred R-L and offense-defense D pairs. Letang/Dumo. Petterssen/Gudbranson, JJ/Marino.

Also, Pens sent Agozzino back to WBS and recalled Blandisi.


I really like the way he is playing. Hell, I'm in love with him! I agree with you. If GMJR can't find takers for Gudbranson and Johnson, then I agree, move Schultz. I would love to see him move one more to get Rikkolla on the ice
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 12, 2019, 09:21:50 PM
Hornqvist with the power play to give the Pens a 1-0 lead over the Wild

Schultz and Crosby with the assists. Another point for Crosby! 
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 12, 2019, 09:29:34 PM
pens up 1-0 on the Wild after one period

Murray looked good that first period but the Pens need to start clearing out in front of him. Way too many Wild players camping out in front of our net when shots are coming in
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 12, 2019, 09:56:33 PM
Crosby scores a nice goal to make it 2-0 Pens. Crosby is just putting this team on his back while Malkin is out

Unfortunately, Wild scores a quick power play goal soon after to make it 2-1 and the Penguins get really lucky as the ref loses sight of the puck and blows the whistle before the tying goal goes in. Pens have to start clearing out in front of Murray
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 12, 2019, 10:13:20 PM
First point and first NHL goal for Adam Johnson! Pens take a 3-1 and the Pens needed that. Wild was taking over the game

Lafferty and ZAR with the assists
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 12, 2019, 10:21:30 PM
How about 4-1 Pens as Letang gets the goal and Dumoulin and Tanev with the assists

What! Blandisi now with a goal and the Pens are up 5-1. Who the heck is Bandisi! And the Wild are changing goalies

Johnson and Lafferty with the assists and they are just racking up the points!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 12, 2019, 10:46:49 PM
Pens up 5-2 after 2 periods

This game isn't over yet. Defense needs to tighten up
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 12, 2019, 11:20:23 PM
Guentzel scores on the power play and Hornqvist gets the lone assist as the Pens now take a 6-2 lead

IMO, Sullivan should be resting some players as they have a game tomorrow night against the Jets. Players got banged around tonight. Score doesn't show how tough this game was at the start
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 12, 2019, 11:34:07 PM
Pens give up 2 late goal to make it 6-4 but Lafferty is able to get an empty net goal and his 3rd point of the night to make it 7-4 Pens

Even with the win I'm sure Sullivan will not be ecstatic with this win. Defense needs to play better and Murray gave up a few bad goals but he does get his 100th regular season win of his career

Penguins will need to play a lot better if they want to win in Winnipeg tomorrow and maybe we will get to see Jarry in net
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 13, 2019, 01:05:36 AM
In other NHL news:

Fleury stops 33 of 35 shots to lead Vegas to a 6-2 victory over Calgary. That is Fleuryís 442nd career win and only 4 wins from becoming the 7th all time in goalie wins
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 13, 2019, 06:40:35 AM
Sullivan needs to admit to himself that Gudbranson is an actual deterrent to opponents who plan to knock around the Pens smaller players like Guentzel. Opponents have absolutely no fear someone on their team will pay a price for hitting the Pens.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 13, 2019, 02:58:01 PM
Sullivan needs to admit to himself that Gudbranson is an actual deterrent to opponents who plan to knock around the Pens smaller players like Guentzel. Opponents have absolutely no fear someone on their team will pay a price for hitting the Pens.


I think he needs to be in the lineup tonight against the Jets and probably sit Johnson but we know Sullivan is not a fan of the big player as a deterrent. Look what he did with Reaves when he was here
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 13, 2019, 07:16:04 PM
Gudbranson and Marino are paired up tonight. Johnson is a healthy scratch

Jarry in net and this might be a do or die moment for him and against a very good Winnipeg team

And not a good start for Jarry as a puck gets deflected off McCann and into the net only 2 minutes into the game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 13, 2019, 07:19:23 PM
ZAR falling down but was able to put the bouncing puck in the net to tie this game up 1-1 early
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 13, 2019, 07:55:09 PM
Things slowed down after 2 early goals and the game is tied 1-1 after one period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 13, 2019, 08:27:00 PM
Guentzel with the power play goal to give the Pens a 2-1 lead

Pettersson and Dumoulin with the assists


And right after Lafferty gets a goal to make it 3-1 Pens. Blandisi and Letang with the assists. That also gives Letang 500 career points. The first ever Penguins defenseman to get to 500 points




Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 13, 2019, 08:49:19 PM
There's something you don't see everyday, a goal from Dominick Simon! 4-2 Pens after 2 periods. Crosby and Pettersson with the assists
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 13, 2019, 09:21:05 PM
Lafferty with his second goal of the game and that makes it 5-2 Pens with 10 minutes left to play

Gonna be hard to take some of these young kids out of the lineup when people start getting healthy. Khahun and Simon better pick it up!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 13, 2019, 09:26:03 PM
Another one for Guentzel and it is now 6-2 Pens

letang and Crosby again racking up the points as they get the assists
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 13, 2019, 09:37:01 PM
Penguins are just red hot right now as ZAR gets his 3rd point of the game with a short handed goal to make it 7-2 Penguins!

This may be against their backup goalie but Winnipeg is a good team!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 13, 2019, 11:47:25 PM
A sweep of the back-to-back games was unexpected, but welcome.

Gudbranson looked a little rusty and uncomfortable playing LD, but I think his presence contributed to Wpg not throwing their weight around as much. I'm trying to watch Simon a little more closely and I can see why the coaches love him. He makes a lot of small, but clever, skilled, plays that don't show up on the highlights, but help keep cycles going and for Sid/Guentzel to score. Lafferty is certainly making a case for himself to stick around when the injured players return. IMHO, he's already passed Kahun. Jarry's  better than Murray. He froze the puck when he was in doubt, didn't give up many rebounds and his stickhandling skill helped the breakout. I think Jarry's glove hand is better and he stays up more than Murray.

I really like the Pens playing a simpler game, especially Letang limiting his penchant for pinching. They are playing like a team right now.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 14, 2019, 12:30:57 AM
A sweep of the back-to-back games was unexpected, but welcome.

Gudbranson looked a little rusty and uncomfortable playing LD, but I think his presence contributed to Wpg not throwing their weight around as much. I'm trying to watch Simon a little more closely and I can see why the coaches love him. He makes a lot of small, but clever, skilled, plays that don't show up on the highlights, but help keep cycles going and for Sid/Guentzel to score. Lafferty is certainly making a case for himself to stick around when the injured players return. IMHO, he's already passed Kahun. Jarry's  better than Murray. He froze the puck when he was in doubt, didn't give up many rebounds and his stickhandling skill helped the breakout. I think Jarry's glove hand is better and he stays up more than Murray.

I really like the Pens playing a simpler game, especially Letang limiting his penchant for pinching. They are playing like a team right now.


Agree on all your points bfgrad. I'm glad you brought up about Jarry better than Murray because I didn't want to say it and have people start coming on and calling me a Murray basher. LOL. I thought for sure that deflected first goal that got past Jarry would rattle him but he looked good the rest of the game and made some really timely saves. Also agree on Simon but I'm still not sold on him being on that top line. IMO, he just needs to score more but I guess if Crosby and Guentzel are going to stay on their tears, it won't matter if Simon scores as long as he keeps the puck in play
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 14, 2019, 12:35:10 AM
Vegas and Fleury are on their way to another win being up 5-2 on the Kings with 3 minutes left in the 3rd period but I don't understand why they are playing Fleury in back to back games. He is 34 years old and even though their back up goalie Subban is injured, their goalie they called up is not bad and did okay when he played up last season

Congrats to Fleury winning back to back games but I hope they don't burn him out
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 14, 2019, 12:53:37 AM
I wish Simon would score more, too, but he's making a lot of nice little plays. The winning goal against ANA was made possible by Simon manuevering the puck away from the Duck d-man in tight and shuffling it up to Sid who then turned it into the 2nd goal. Simon didn't get an assist on the scoresheet, but he made that play. Sid seems to like playing with him, so who am I to argue?
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 14, 2019, 01:11:33 AM
I wish Simon would score more, too, but he's making a lot of nice little plays. The winning goal against ANA was made possible by Simon manuevering the puck away from the Duck d-man in tight and shuffling it up to Sid who then turned it into the 2nd goal. Simon didn't get an assist on the scoresheet, but he made that play. Sid seems to like playing with him, so who am I to argue?

Agree. I guess we are in the if it aint broke don't fix it with that line
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 16, 2019, 07:25:44 PM
I know me and bfrgad have been saying this for a long time but their is something up with why Murray is constantly having issues saving shots to his glove side.

Simon misses a wide open net after Crosby sets him up beautifully on a 2 on 1 and Simon hits the post then Colorado brings it right down the ice and they score off a shot that goes right under Murray's glove arm. Pens can't give up bad goals like that to a good team
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 16, 2019, 07:51:16 PM
What an effort by Crosby to score that goal. Batted the puck down and gets through two people to backhand it into the net and ties this game up 1-1

That is also Crosby's 450th goal of his career
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on October 16, 2019, 08:31:53 PM
The game is on NBCSN so I am getting to see the Pens for the first time this season.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 16, 2019, 08:48:43 PM
what a goal by Guentzel! Nice backhand to forehand move and roofs it over the Colorado goalie to make it 2-1 Pens!

Crosby and Simon with the assists and that gives Crosby another point!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: Bob.Gregg.WJPA.Radio on October 16, 2019, 09:17:52 PM
Letang has flopped on two situations tonight, both of them ending up in the net...
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 16, 2019, 09:20:44 PM
Letang makes a bad defensive play and leaves MacKinnon wide open on a mini 2 on 1 and MacKinnon was able to shelf it over, yep, Murray's glove. Even though I will blame Letang for that one more than Murray.

Game is tied 2-2 with 15 minutes left to play
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 16, 2019, 09:48:06 PM
pens and Colorado each get a point and we are heading to overtime

Really good game to showcase on Wednesday night for the NHL
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 16, 2019, 09:53:10 PM
Colorado gets a power play as Dumoulin gets called for a slash

Ouch
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 16, 2019, 09:56:57 PM
There it is!

A shorthanded goal by Tanev that bounced of a Colorado stick to give the pens the win 3-2!

What a game!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 17, 2019, 04:47:28 AM
Love what Tanev is bringing and glad he got rewarded for his hard work with the goal Colo put in their own net in OT.

Did you notice Riikola out on the 4th line as winger? He took McCann's spot in the line up.

I recall when Murray first came up, he was asked something about equipment and said he uses a new glove right out of the box. Maybe that has something to do with his glove hand issues, but I still think Murray has regressed with fundamentals and technique. I seem to recall him playing a more upright and aggressive game at the beginning, but now he seems to go down quicker and stay farther back in the net. Maybe that's a result of the Pens firing Bales and hiring the goalie coach Murray likes.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 17, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
Love what Tanev is bringing and glad he got rewarded for his hard work with the goal Colo put in their own net in OT.

Did you notice Riikola out on the 4th line as winger? He took McCann's spot in the line up.

I recall when Murray first came up, he was asked something about equipment and said he uses a new glove right out of the box. Maybe that has something to do with his glove hand issues, but I still think Murray has regressed with fundamentals and technique. I seem to recall him playing a more upright and aggressive game at the beginning, but now he seems to go down quicker and stay farther back in the net. Maybe that's a result of the Pens firing Bales and hiring the goalie coach Murray likes.


I did. Marino is playing too good IMO to take out of the lineup and I'm guessing they are trying to figure out what to do with Riikola until they can move a defenseman or two. He might as well take the place of Kahun because he has not looked good this season. I think every time he was on the ice last night he took a penalty! And I agree about Murray. He went down way too quick on that second goal he gave up. Granted, Letang made an awful defensive play and I blame him for 90% of giving up that goal but Murray also looked bad on it. Pens are playing really good right now but every team in the league should know that there is a book on Murray to shoot to his glove side and he also has a problem with hugging the post to close off the short side. He needs to work on these issues and it just seems to be getting worse
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 18, 2019, 06:50:54 PM
Wondering how Sullivan will play his goalies the next two days. play Dallas tonight and Vegas tomorrow. Vegas last played on Thursday so Fleury should be playing on Saturday. I wonder if he will play Jarry tonight and maybe save Murray for tomorrow?
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 18, 2019, 08:09:16 PM
Dallas gets the first goal of the game 5 minutes into the second period on a shot that IMO, Murray should have stopped


Pens go on the power play right after but Iím getting a bad feeling about this game. Dallas goalie is stopping everything that is coming at him
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 18, 2019, 08:32:30 PM
Welcome back McCAnn as he gets the deflection and the goal to tie this game up 1-1 late in the second period!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 18, 2019, 09:09:22 PM
Letang scores to give the Pens a 2-1 lead with 13 minutes left to go!

Dallas getting close but rang a few off the post
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 18, 2019, 09:12:43 PM
Make it 3-1 Pens as Dumoulin shoots and Hornqvist deflects it past the goalie. Dallas goalie shouldíve had that one but the Pens will take it!

Actually the last two goals were bad goals to give up which is probably why the Stars have won only one game so far this season
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 18, 2019, 09:34:44 PM
Kris Letang gets his second goal of the night into an empty net and that will seal it for the Penguins win 4-2 over the Dallas Stars

Hard fought victims the Stars came in Desperate for a win but the Penguins were able to match their intensity and pull out a win

Big game tomorrow against Fleury and the Golden Knights and I will be there to watch!!!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on October 19, 2019, 09:44:44 PM
MAF shuts out the Pens at PPG! Congrats to Fleury!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 19, 2019, 10:38:17 PM
Just got home and all I can say is Wow! What a game between the Knights and Pens. Vegas wins 3-0. Both Jarry and Fleury played outstanding today and Fleury even did a little veteran move by pulling off his mask during a scrum in front of the net to get a whistle. I remember watching a game quite a while ago when Lemieux got stuck behind the play after getting into it with an opposing player. He was behind the net and when the refs were looking at the play down the ice he pulled the net off to get a whistle, which he did. Crowd was booing Fleury big time on that move!

Jarry only gave up one goal today, a power play goal that he had no chance on. The other 2 were empty net goals even though I believe they might've called the 3rd goal not an empty because Jarry wasn't far enough off the ice. Fleury made some highlight reel saves but the real downfall for the Penguins was going 0 for 4 on the power play and 2 were back to back 

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I would love to see these two teams in a 7 game Stanley Cup Series!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 19, 2019, 11:09:38 PM
Really good game to watch on TV, up and down all game. Pens hit 3 posts, I think, but MAF was terrific. Jarry played well, too, and had no chance on the LVK PP goal. I had to question Sullivan putting Kahum out there as the 6th F when the Pens had a PP with a little over 2 mins left, though.

MAF had his mask knocked off in that goal mouth scramble. He was too busy trying to make saves in all the traffic.

I really like Jarry. He's got good rebound control and is an excellent stickhandler. I like his decision-making on when to freeze the puck and when to let play continue.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 20, 2019, 07:47:58 AM
Really good game to watch on TV, up and down all game. Pens hit 3 posts, I think, but MAF was terrific. Jarry played well, too, and had no chance on the LVK PP goal. I had to question Sullivan putting Kahum out there as the 6th F when the Pens had a PP with a little over 2 mins left, though.

MAF had his mask knocked off in that goal mouth scramble. He was too busy trying to make saves in all the traffic.

I really like Jarry. He's got good rebound control and is an excellent stickhandler. I like his decision-making on when to freeze the puck and when to let play continue.


I agree on Jarry. He is looking really good in the net and is really good moving and stopping the puck when he needs to. Watched him push the puck up the ice several times and freeze it when he needs to

Disagree on Fleury and his mask though. They showed the replay several times at the game and watched it again when I came home. He definitely grabbed his mask and pulled it off to get a whistle. But like I said, veteran move from a veteran goalie. Should've been a penalty but the refs didn't see it

That is also Fleury's 445th career win. 1 more win and he passes Terry Sawchuck for 7th in all time wins and he is only 5 wins behind Henrik Lundqvist who has 450 wins. After that it is Curtis Joseph who is 5th all time with 454 wins
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 22, 2019, 07:54:01 PM
Not alot of offense from either team in the first period. Pens had a few chances but could not capitalize against the Panthers

0-0 after one period

Would love to see Crosby get back on the score sheet tonight
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Post by: hs on October 22, 2019, 08:25:38 PM
Weird goal as Murray hits a shot off his blocker and it goes straight up in the air and Before Murray can back up against the post it hits off his back and into the net to give Florida a 1-0 lead

Fortunately, just a minute later, Blueger is able to tie it up 1-1. Guentzel and Simon with the assists
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Post by: hs on October 22, 2019, 08:36:03 PM
Pens down 2-1 after 2 periods and the Panthers have 1:29 left on their power play to start the 3rd period
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Post by: hs on October 22, 2019, 09:19:13 PM
There's the dagger. Penguins can't score on the power play as ZAR hits the post and the Panthers come back and score to make it 3-1 Florida with 6 minutes left

Wait a minute! Hornqvist scores just over the goalies pad and the Pens are down by 1 with 5:33 left
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 22, 2019, 09:24:21 PM
That should be game. Florida scores in the empty net to make it 4-2 Florida with 1:03 left
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 22, 2019, 11:38:04 PM
In other NHL news:

Congratulations to Marc Andre Fleury who just got his 446th career win after defeating the Blackhawks 2-1 in a shootout. That win puts him at 7th all time in career wins for goalies passing Terry Sawchuk and putting him only 4 wins behind Henrik Lundqvist who is at 450 wins and at number 6 and 8 wins behind Curtis Joseph who is at 454 wins and at number 5

Awesome accomplishment for Fleury!

Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 23, 2019, 04:20:49 AM
I think the last 2 games have kind of showed the limitations of a team consisting of a lot of grinders who don't score. Despite Sullivan saying he'll have a hard time putting the returning injured players back in the line up, it won't be hard at all. Rust, Bjugstad, Galchenyk and Malkin will be welcome additions.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 23, 2019, 01:47:16 PM
I think the last 2 games have kind of showed the limitations of a team consisting of a lot of grinders who don't score. Despite Sullivan saying he'll have a hard time putting the returning injured players back in the line up, it won't be hard at all. Rust, Bjugstad, Galchenyk and Malkin will be welcome additions.


Could not agree more with this. Pens can't rely only on their top line every single night. And after saying that, I would like to see what Tannev could do on that top line
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Post by: bfgrad on October 23, 2019, 02:14:11 PM
Sid seems to like playing with Simon, so I'm fine with that line staying intact.

I think Tanev would fit great with Malkin, playing the Max Talbot role, using his speed to open up space for Malkin, taking on a bit more of defensive responsibility and chipping in the odd goal here and there. Malkin's had his best success with at least one speedy winger and either a sniper winger (Neal, Sykora) or power forward (Malone, Fedotenko). With Tanev and Galchenyk, he'd have the speed/sniper combination.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 23, 2019, 09:22:18 PM
Pens down 1-0 to Tampa Bay at the start of the second period. Pens arenít getting too many scoring chances as the Lightning are playing really tight defense

Jarry is also looking really good. Made a ton of really high quality saves so far. Only goal has beef on a deflection
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 23, 2019, 09:23:54 PM
And as I type Tanev scores a highlight reel goal to tie this game up 1-1! Awesome goal
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 23, 2019, 09:53:39 PM
Oh my god what a goal! Simon to Crosby to Guentzel and he buries it to give the Pens a 2-1 lead late in the second period. Right before that Tampa misses on a shot through Jarryís legs and goes off the post
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 23, 2019, 10:52:33 PM
 Very disappointing as Tampa gets back to back power plays in the last 5 minutes of the game and the Lightning is able to score on the second power play with 56 seconds left to take the lead 3-2. Pens played a good game but was not able to pull out the win

Some big time controversy now as it looks like the puck mightíve went over the goal line in the goalie glove with 0.4 seconds left. Call on ice was no goal. I canít see them overturning the call

Again I agree with you bfgrad, Penguins definitely miss their injured players
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 23, 2019, 10:55:59 PM
Yep, no goal. Tampa wins 3-2 and the Pens are now on a little bit of a losing streak
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 24, 2019, 08:28:22 AM
Teams can only go far with "try guys". Sid and Guentzel are playing over 21 minutes/game and have to be both the best offensive and defensive line. That can't go on for the entire season. Right now, except for maybe Lafferty, the 4th line should be in WBS. They can't keep getting nothing from Dominik Kahun either.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 24, 2019, 10:30:47 AM
Teams can only go far with "try guys". Sid and Guentzel are playing over 21 minutes/game and have to be both the best offensive and defensive line. That can't go on for the entire season. Right now, except for maybe Lafferty, the 4th line should be in WBS. They can't keep getting nothing from Dominik Kahun either.


I would put Hornqvist in there with Sid and Guetzel also. He has been playing his heart out. I wish Lafferty would've scored on that short handed breakaway but that's the way it went last night. I love to hear the Pens announcers prop up Kahun every night saying how he is improving every game etc. but I am just not seeing it. I really like how Jarry is playing right now. That Seattle expansion draft is coming up next year or the year after I believe and I think it may be really interesting for the Penguins. Maybe Murray to Seattle?
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 25, 2019, 07:26:41 AM
I agree about Hornqvist and I'd add McCann and maybe Bluegar.

I think Jarry's the better goalie, too. He just looks much more confident in net right now than Murray. I could see a scenario of Murray going to Seattle because he's a RFA at the end of this season and the Pens might not be able to fit a new contract under their cap. But otherwise I don't see Murray leaving.

I saw a clip on TV of Poulin, Legare or both tearing it up in Juniors. I won't be surprised if one or both make the team out of training camp next season.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 25, 2019, 03:15:33 PM
I agree about Hornqvist and I'd add McCann and maybe Bluegar.

I think Jarry's the better goalie, too. He just looks much more confident in net right now than Murray. I could see a scenario of Murray going to Seattle because he's a RFA at the end of this season and the Pens might not be able to fit a new contract under their cap. But otherwise I don't see Murray leaving.

I saw a clip on TV of Poulin, Legare or both tearing it up in Juniors. I won't be surprised if one or both make the team out of training camp next season.


I called it when Seattle was given the franchise that Murray would be going there so I am sticking to that. And I agree, Blueger has been playing great. McCann has been a little off since his injury but he was playing good before that
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: Bob.Gregg.WJPA.Radio on October 25, 2019, 04:00:14 PM
The Penguins have acquired forward Andreas Martinsen and a 2021 seventh-round draft pick from the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for Erik Gudbranson.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 25, 2019, 04:51:35 PM
Open season on the Crosby, Letang, Malkin and the rest now.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on October 25, 2019, 06:33:40 PM
I know that they were trying to move a dman. Johnson is too difficult to move and as much as Schultz has rumored that move would not behoove them short team. After Johnson Gubranson made the most sense. So I like the trade (from a financial standpoint). On ice it probably doesn't impact them a ton either way.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 25, 2019, 07:22:37 PM
Open season on the Crosby, Letang, Malkin and the rest now.


Probably find out pretty quick as they play the Flyers Tuesday night
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 25, 2019, 10:17:38 PM
Galchenyuk, Bjustad and Bryan Rust returned to practice today

Rust and Bjustad are game time decisions. Galchenyuk has already been ruled out but Sullivan says he is very close to returning
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 26, 2019, 08:12:59 PM
Rust and Bjustad back in the lineup on line 2 with Hornqvist

Rikkolla back on defense paired up with Marino
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 26, 2019, 09:46:02 PM
2nd period comes to an end and there is no score between the Pens and the Stars. Kind of a tight checking, pretty boring game IMO as the Penguins have only been able to get 14 shots on goal so far. Pens can't buy a power play as Crosby and Guentzel have been getting knocked around a little

Concerning part is Crosby gets hit in the head with the puck at the end of the second period. He did go off on his own power but we will see if he comes back out.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 26, 2019, 10:06:35 PM
Good news. Sid is back on the ice
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Post by: hs on October 26, 2019, 10:19:06 PM
We have a Kahun sighting!!!

Bishop muffs moving the puck and then couldn't secure the puck under his body and Kahun was able to put it in the net to give the Pens a 1-0 lead with 12:16 left in the game and they could really use the points right now
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Post by: hs on October 26, 2019, 10:25:40 PM
And less than 90 seconds later Rust scores his first goal and the Penguins now lead 2-0

Marino and Hornqvist get the assists and Lafferty got an assist on the Kahun goal
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 26, 2019, 10:39:41 PM
I think Tanev had no intention of scoring there but he clears the puck out of the Pens zone and it slowly trickles into the empty net to give the Penguins a 3-0 lead with 1:15 left
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 26, 2019, 10:58:40 PM
Murray gets the shut out and the Pens win 3-0 over the Stars and get those much needed 2 points

Pens host the Flyers on Tuesday
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 29, 2019, 05:54:19 PM
Dumoulin, Galchenyuk and Johnson are all game time decisions for tonight

Malkin practiced today but he had the red no contact jersey on and is hoping to be back Saturday when the Penguins take on the Edmonton Oilers
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 29, 2019, 07:26:50 PM
Pens are shooting the puck and it is working

Schultz gets the first goal assisted by Kahun

And not too long after McCann scores with Kahun and Rust with the assists

And we have a Simon sighting as he scores and Crosby gets the assist

Itís 3-0 Pens within a span of 2:49!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 29, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
This game is getting out of hand. Crosby now scores to make it 4-0 Pens for his second point of the game. Simon and Letang get the assists and thatís Simonís second point

Iím expecting the Flyers to stir it up pretty soon
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 29, 2019, 08:40:51 PM
3 points now for Crosby and Simon as they assist on the goal from Guentzel as the Penguins make it 5-0

How about 6-0 now as ZAR scores off the deflection from the Johnson shot

6 different goal scorers in this game for the Penguins
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Post by: bfgrad on October 29, 2019, 08:51:00 PM
The Dominiks are on a roll!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 29, 2019, 09:39:34 PM
Kahun gets the 7th goal of the game and his 3rd point of the game and the Pens win 7-1 over the Flyers. Penguins dominated this game from start to finish. Great win and now they need to get ready for a much better team as the Oilers come to town Saturday
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on October 31, 2019, 04:27:50 PM
Looks like Malkin will return to the line up Saturday. Should be interesting to see how lines 2-4 are configured.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on October 31, 2019, 05:40:14 PM
Looks like Malkin will return to the line up Saturday. Should be interesting to see how lines 2-4 are configured.


Hopefully, he buys into what the Pens are doing right now and doesnít try to be a one man wrecking crew out there
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 02, 2019, 12:33:11 PM
Did the Penguins purposely schedule a 1PM game today? If they did, shame on them because the Penguins generally sleepwalk through them.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 02, 2019, 01:55:34 PM
Did the Penguins purposely schedule a 1PM game today? If they did, shame on them because the Penguins generally sleepwalk through them.


Wouldíve been nice if this was a prime time game with Pittsburgh playing Edmonton but Iím guessing it was schedule this way with Pitt playing Ga Tech at 4:30? And I was surprised to hear Lange and Bourque say the Penguins are 17-7 in afternoon games and 15-5 at home. I wouldíve that record would be a lot worse. After saying all of that, Penguins looked good in the first period but the score is 0-0 after one.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on November 02, 2019, 02:09:53 PM
As we've discussed before I'm fairly sure that the NHL schedules these game times not the team.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 02, 2019, 02:20:21 PM
Edmonton gets the first goal. Murray, IMO, badly misplayed the puck as the Oilers player came right through the paint and was able to put it behind Murray. A poke check wouldíve taken care of that but for some reason Murray stayed back and didnít challenge

Edmonton up 1-0
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 02, 2019, 03:46:24 PM
Dumoulin with the shortie ties it at 1, but Pens lose in OT. The Pens definitely deserved better than 1 point, but I'll take it.

Agree that was a bad goal by Murray when, as you said, a simple poke check disrupts it.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on November 02, 2019, 03:51:44 PM
Edmonton bringing in Dave Tippett may have been the best NHL move this offseason.
The former Pen has been an excellent coach on some not talented teams....Edmonton with the correct structure may be the West favorites at this point!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 02, 2019, 03:55:40 PM
Dumoulin with the shortie ties it at 1, but Pens lose in OT. The Pens definitely deserved better than 1 point, but I'll take it.

Agree that was a bad goal by Murray when, as you said, a simple poke check disrupts it.


Iím happy with a point also but I also agree, the Pens deserved better especially when they dominated most of the game. Mike Smith was just the better goalie today. He kept Edmonton in this game when the Penguins were peppering him with shots early
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 03, 2019, 07:30:55 PM
Hornqvist placed on IR retroactive to Saturday. He's got some kind of leg/knee injury and expected to be out "longer term".
Rust was bumped up to Malkin's line. I'd prefer Tanev, but Rust will bring more speed to help open the ice for Malkin and Galchenyk.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 04, 2019, 07:43:10 AM
Hornqvist placed on IR retroactive to Saturday. He's got some kind of leg/knee injury and expected to be out "longer term".
Rust was bumped up to Malkin's line. I'd prefer Tanev, but Rust will bring more speed to help open the ice for Malkin and Galchenyk.

That contract he gave Hornqvist will be GMJR's bugaboo for several years to come. He was playing really good so far but IMO, he is getting paid way too much
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 04, 2019, 07:14:57 PM
Huge test for the Penguins as they face a Boston Bruins team that is 10-1-2 on the season so far
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 04, 2019, 07:17:33 PM
And as soon as I type that Letang turns the puck over and Murray gives up just an awful goal because he wasnít hugging the post and he gives another one up on his short side

Just what the Penguins didnít need. Blame Letang all you want for turning over the puck but that goal was on Murray for not being ready. Just awful
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 04, 2019, 07:51:50 PM
Pens down 2-0 after one period. Pens looked good but Halak just looked better in goal for Boston

Errey says this is when Murray plays his best so I guess Murray plays his best after giving up an awful goal and putting his team behind. Ugh!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 04, 2019, 08:29:56 PM
Bruins make it 3-0 but the Pens are able to score goals from Kahun and Bjustad to make it 3-2 Bruins
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 04, 2019, 08:37:03 PM
Rust scores to tie this game up 3-3

Forgot to say that Murray is out and Jarry is in

Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 04, 2019, 08:41:45 PM
Holy S&&t!!!

Marino scores a goal coming out of the penalty box in front of his whole family to give the Pens a 4-3 lead after two periods. Halak is pissed and broke his stick over the goal post!

Letang gets away with a blatant trip in front of Jarry. Shouldíve been a penalty
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 04, 2019, 08:46:46 PM
Just an incredible turning, behind-the-back pass from Malkin to set up Rust for the tying goal. Then Marino in the right place at the right time with a goal scorers goal for the 4-3 lead.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on November 04, 2019, 08:48:38 PM
I'm working was Murray pulled for performance or injury?
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 04, 2019, 09:15:32 PM
Boston is able to tie it up and I don't know how he scored from that angle! Penguins got lazy on that 4 on 4 and left too many Boston players wide open. This game is tied 4-4
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: emm8 on November 04, 2019, 09:28:59 PM
I'm working was Murray pulled for performance or injury?


 performance
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on November 04, 2019, 09:30:24 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 04, 2019, 09:37:41 PM
Damnit! Marchand shoots one from the top of the circle, hits the post and comes back and hits the back of Jarryís head and rolls into the net for a goal. Bruins lead 5-4 with under 2 minutes left
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 05, 2019, 06:11:38 AM
Too bad for Jarry, 1 very sharp angle goal and a lucky bounce for the 2 goals he allowed. I saw the first goal Murray let in because he again failed to hug the post and then look shaky the next shot on net. I knew right away from that, he was going to be bad, but I was surprised to see Jarry in net when I tuned back in. I wonder if he'll get a few starts in a row now.

The PP seems snakebit. It's generating lots of good chances, but the pucks not going in.

I missed what happened to Letang. He got hurt? I can see why the Pens love Marino.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 05, 2019, 07:09:17 AM
Too bad for Jarry, 1 very sharp angle goal and a lucky bounce for the 2 goals he allowed. I saw the first goal Murray let in because he again failed to hug the post and then look shaky the next shot on net. I knew right away from that, he was going to be bad, but I was surprised to see Jarry in net when I tuned back in. I wonder if he'll get a few starts in a row now.

The PP seems snakebit. It's generating lots of good chances, but the pucks not going in.

I missed what happened to Letang. He got hurt? I can see why the Pens love Marino.


I missed it to but he left in the 3rd period with a "lower body injury". Ya, Murray looked really bad yesterday. I would like to see Jarry get the start on Thursday against the Islanders but it probably won't happen. Islanders are playing really good and are on a 9 game winning streak so we will see what Sullivan does.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 06, 2019, 07:06:22 PM
Lafferty recalled from WBS.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 07, 2019, 07:22:22 PM
Say what you want about how this team is playing right now but they will only go as far as goal tending will take them and right now, Murray is not playing good. 19 seconds into a game that where you are playing the Islanders that are in the midst of a 10 game winning streak, Murray gives up a goal that bounced off the boards and was able to be put in on Murrayís short side. He lazily tried to go from his left to right and didnít get there fast enough. Murray needs to play with a little more enthusiasm and Iím not seeing it from him
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 07, 2019, 07:43:55 PM
If nothing else, Jarry's a much better and confident stick-handler. Against a team the likes to forecheck like NYI, it's an advantage to have a goalie who can move the puck quickly to a teammate.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 07, 2019, 08:03:47 PM
If nothing else, Jarry's a much better and confident stick-handler. Against a team the likes to forecheck like NYI, it's an advantage to have a goalie who can move the puck quickly to a teammate.


I was actually surprised Sullivan didnít start Jarry tonight
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 07, 2019, 08:20:01 PM
Murray is just not looking confident at all. Canít keep putting this or any team in a hole this deep and expect them to come back game after game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 07, 2019, 09:40:38 PM
Pens come all the way back from 3 goals down and win it in overtime 4-3. Pens score 3 in the 3rd period and Murray was able to keep the puck out of the net. Good win for the Pens as they have 2 more games against this team this month
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 10, 2019, 06:25:05 AM
Pens come back from a 2-0 deficit off of goals from Guentzel and Rust to beat the Blackhawks 3-2 in a shootout. Penalty kill has been really good for the Penguins but unfortunately, the power play stinks. What a lot of people also are not saying is the Penguins are scratching out wins like this but they should be beating these teams like Chicago with ease and not going into 2-0 holes and having to come back in overtimes or shootouts. A win is a win but the Penguins can't expect to keep this up. I'm not even missing Letang right now as Marino has stepped up nicely. Bad news also is that Crosby suffered a "lower body injury" in the 3rd period. Sullivan said he should have more info by Monday

Next game is Tuesday vs the Rangers
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 11, 2019, 01:29:40 PM
Any word on Crosby's injury, other than "lower body"?

I saw a promo that the Pens are now selling 10 game ticket plans. This is what happens when you start to price yourself out of the range of the average fan.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 11, 2019, 02:46:40 PM
Any word on Crosby's injury, other than "lower body"?

I saw a promo that the Pens are now selling 10 game ticket plans. This is what happens when you start to price yourself out of the range of the average fan.


I just heard he is out for Tuesdayís game against the Rangers and he is being evaluated daily. Sullivan says he doesnít know anything else but Iím sure thatís bs
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 11, 2019, 05:18:05 PM
Also just heard on Madden that Crosby has been ruled out for Tuesday and Fridayís games. Doesnít sou
D good at all
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 11, 2019, 05:45:20 PM
I'm going to guess high ankle sprain.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 12, 2019, 07:54:35 PM
Not even 7 minutes into the game and I have counted 3 breakaways already given up by the Penguins and the Rangers capitalize on the third to give NY a 1-0 lead

Rangers have 9 shots to the Pens only 1
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 12, 2019, 08:18:47 PM
Penguins power play woes continue as they went 0 for 2 on the power play and are down 2-0 after one period

They look all out of sorts today
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 12, 2019, 08:42:51 PM
Sullivan mustíve gave this team a serious ass chewing at intermission as only 1:13 into the second period, Schultz scores to cut the Rangers lead in half. Malkin and Petterson get the assists
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 12, 2019, 08:59:23 PM
Stop the presses!!! The Penguins get a power play goal from McCAnn to tie this game up 2-2
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 12, 2019, 11:10:51 PM
Pens lose 3-2 in OT. Not sure what happened to Malkin that he got back late into the play. Looked like he got a little tangled up and wasn't able to go full speed back.

Murray played well and stole a point for the Pens tonight.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 13, 2019, 08:09:56 AM
Pens lose 3-2 in OT. Not sure what happened to Malkin that he got back late into the play. Looked like he got a little tangled up and wasn't able to go full speed back.

Murray played well and stole a point for the Pens tonight.

I wasn't able to finish watching the game but I agree, Murray did play good and stole a point for the Penguins. They need to stop with this going down by one or two goals and then fighting to come back
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 13, 2019, 01:46:22 PM
Rob Rossi is reporting Crosby is out with a sports hernia and is considering surgery. He is also saying he will be out 4-6 weeks
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 13, 2019, 02:57:36 PM
Heard that Crosby was in Phila area seeing a "core specialist". This would seem to fit with a sports hernia type injury.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 14, 2019, 12:31:52 PM
Crosby underwent successful surgery this morning for his sports hernia. Expected recovery time is a minimum of 6 weeks. Surgery was performed by Dr William Meyers in Philadelphia.

Hope the doctor is not a Flyers fan!!!!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 14, 2019, 07:35:26 PM
After the fiasco with the concussion mis-diagnosis after the Steckel hit, can't blame Sid for seeking a 2nd opinion outside of the Penguin organization and Pgh specialists.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 15, 2019, 05:41:21 PM
I love listening to Cook and Poni on the Fan. They know nothing about hockey. Question was asked on how the Penguins are going to survive with Crosby, Letang and Hornqvist out. Their answer- play Murray as much as possible. Amazing that they donít realize that Jarry is playing just as good as Murray IMO.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 15, 2019, 10:34:11 PM
That idea didn't work out too well tonight...
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 16, 2019, 07:53:54 PM
Penguins get goals from GUentzel on a power play and a goal from Malkin to give the Pens a 2-0 lead in the first period

Jarry has also looked really sharp so far but if you ask the ďexpertsĒ on the radio, they need to play Murray more! LOL
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 16, 2019, 08:07:57 PM
To me, Jarry looks really confident in goal. Murray looks ok, but doesn't give off the same vibe to me. The Pens overall seem to move out of their end better with Jarry in there.

I can't believe Jarry's being blamed for having a "bad game" vs Boston. The 2 goals he gave up were pretty much snipes. If Crosby or Malkin scored them, they'd have been called fabulous goals.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 16, 2019, 08:16:49 PM
I agree completely about Jarry vs Boston. If Murray was in net, in no way would he be blamed for the goals. Iíve heard Errey say countless times how a goal was scored on Murray off a deflection when no one was near the shooter or the goalie but we need to make every excuse for Murray because he is sensitive to criticism
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 16, 2019, 08:18:30 PM
53 seconds in and Kahun scores to give the Pens a 3-0 lead. Harmless shot to the net but the Penguins are getting a lot of traffic in front and making it tough for the Leafs goalie
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 16, 2019, 08:27:09 PM
Wow! Great challenge by the Penguins as the call on the ice was no goal because Tanev slid into the Toronto goalie and the refs called incidental contact but he was obviously tripped and the call was overturned and Kahun gets the goal, his second of the game, and that gives the Pens a 4-0 lead
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 16, 2019, 09:19:02 PM
Penguins power play not that good lately but their penalty kill is really good as Bluegr is able to get the short handed goal to give the Pe s a 6-1 lead and that is the Penguins 19th straight penalty kill
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 16, 2019, 09:56:20 PM
3 points for Rust and 3 points for Kahun and the Penguins defeat the Leafs in convincing fashion 6-1. Total team effort today as all lines played well and Jarry looked really good tonight. Iíve said it before and Iíll say it again, Jarry deserves more playing time with this team. He is definitely outplaying Murray.

I saw a commercial for those 10 game flex plans and Iíve been wanting to comment back to you bfgrad bit I keep forgetting. I know quite a few people who cancelled their season tickets this season and yes, constantly raising the prices had something to do with it but a lot of season ticket holders that have been there for many years (I had mine for 15) felt slighted the past couple years. I donít know if you know this but people will go on twitter or Facebook and message the Penguins and tell them itís their first game or they came from far away or give them another story etc. and the Pens weíre messaging them back and giving them box seats, autographed jerseys etc. and it was pissing a lot of people that support this team year after year off and a lot of them cancelled their tickets when they messaged the Penguins about this and never got a reply. Mine was more for price but it didnít make me happy seeing these people get all these gifts from the Penguins by just messaging them a story
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 17, 2019, 08:50:00 AM
My dad and I used to go to Pitt Stadium for Steeler games back in the day when ticket owners practically begged to have someone take their tickets. When Three Rivers was built, Dad bought season tickets - I think they were $10/seat (5 rows from the top). Except for a 2 year hiatus, we (now just me) have had Steeler season tickets since. The Steelers are pretty good to us and send a survey out each season asking about feedback on our gameday experience and providing space for comments. STH's even get a chance to opt in to playoff tickets at regular season prices when paying their season invoice.
This year we were able to donate preseason game tickets to Tickets for Kids or something so at least we are able to count the cost as a charitable deduction.

Even though some, or even most, of the "stories" sent to the Penguins aren't true, Pens management doesn't have time to vett each one and figures they risk denying someone a few perks who is telling the truth and getting a PR black eye.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 17, 2019, 09:05:12 AM
To avoid the PR black eye IMO, they just never shouldíve started answering them but now that they started, they canít go back and ignore them now or it would be a PR nightmare for them. But how about instead of giving somebody who says itís their first game giving them box seats or tickets to the Lexus club, how about giving them a free order of nachos or a dilly bar? Just sayiní

Penguins send out those surveys also at the end of the season and I used to fill them out every year. I just assumed they are probably just ignored and filed somewhere
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 17, 2019, 09:37:46 AM
The Steelers and Penguins are pretty attuned to PR. They probably don't ignore the surveys completely, but I'd be shocked if the comments weren't ignored.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on November 17, 2019, 01:54:57 PM
bf you beat me to it regarding the Pens' PR historically, or at least Crosby era.

Not that they don't do some things wrong (i.e. doing something to make a fan like hs feel alienated) but as a whole they are from what I understand a model franchise in that dept.

Regarding the Steelers what I respect about them the most of the three is that they are least likely to overreact to fan reaction. I.e. they have kept grass rather than turf (players prefer that), they are rational with personnell decisions (remember the Michael Vick backlash, Ben backlash after the rape charges, sticking with Tomlin). The Pens I think focus the most on entertaining and engaging fans, and to their credit are first class in every way of game day experience, social media presence, and community involvement, but as also mortified at doing things to upset fans (i.e. trading Malkin, being splashy at the deadlines when they do not have to be...and keeping in mind that before trading Staal they offered him a ridiculous albatross contract that luckily he turned down, etc). For them making a social media scene of a child with cancer or a 93 year old woman attending her first game is more important to their brand than worrying about a season ticket holder's concerns about pricing.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 17, 2019, 03:31:08 PM
Agree the Steelers are more traditionalist and will stay that way as long as the Rooney's own and control them. They still have college and HS bands at halftime, the frisbee dogs, Alumni day - the same things they've had since I went to games as a teenager - back in the late 60s. They do have a social media presence and recently Steeler Nation Unite, which is a social media thing.

The Pens are by far the most social media savvy franchise. I think hockey, at least in Pgh, tends to skew younger and it makes sense to cultivate those fans of the generations that are glued to their cell phones. Plus hockey players are a different breed of athlete. There must be some jerks among their ranks, but they seem to be few and far between.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 17, 2019, 06:25:01 PM
I do remember several years ago after the Penguins had a down season for them, probably bounced in the first round of the playoffs, the Penguins sent a letter basically apologizing and said they werenít going to raise ticket prices because of it. Unfortunately, that didnít stop them last season after being swept by the Islanders
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 19, 2019, 07:32:43 PM
Islanders were racking up the power play minutes but the Pens shut them down both times and the Penguins come back and score their own power play goal as Rust was able to put the puck in the net and give the Pens a 1-0 lead in the first period

Guentzel and Malkin get the assists
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 19, 2019, 07:42:36 PM
Penguins are doing a great job getting in front of the net and it is paying off as they now lead 2-0 off the Tanev deflection from a shot from Marino. Tanev was such a great pickup by Rutherford and what a move to keep Marino up to play on this roster
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 19, 2019, 08:21:31 PM
Pens were up 2-0 after one period but quickly give up 2 goals and this game is now tied 2-2
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 19, 2019, 08:45:46 PM
Tanev gets his second goal of the game and gives the Pens a 3-2 lead after two periods
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 19, 2019, 09:08:00 PM
2nd power play goal of the game for the Penguins as GUentzel scores to give the Pens a 4-2 lead early in the third.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 19, 2019, 09:41:33 PM
Pens give up 2 goals and this game is tied 4-4 with a minute left! Ugh!

Penguins couldnít win a face off to save their life the last 6 minutes so they were on their heels the whole time. IMO, Murray misplayed that 4th goal and just missed it. He has been playing good tonight but that last goal was a bad goal to give up. No screen and a straight away shot from the point and he just missed it.

Game going to overtime. Pens get a point but they shouldíve beat the Islanders outright in regulation
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 19, 2019, 09:56:18 PM
That loss is gonna sting. Pens get a point but lose in overtime to the Islanders 5-4 in OT. Pens turn it over and Murray canít control the shot and it dribbles past him and gets pushed into the net for the game winner.

Murray looked good for two periods but just couldnt put together a full game to shut the Islanders down. Every other reason will be used to justify this loss but I still say Jarry needs to be used more to make Murray sweat a little
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 20, 2019, 05:16:37 AM
Definitely snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Agree about Murray looking great the first two periods and not so much the 3rd and OT, but I think the blame goes to the 6-5 EN play. There is no way the shooters at the point should've had as much time and space as they did. The Pens should've been much closer and aggressive rather than trying to pack it in. They've been aggressive on the PK all season, no reason the 6 on 5 kill to be different.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 20, 2019, 10:06:44 AM
Definitely snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Agree about Murray looking great the first two periods and not so much the 3rd and OT, but I think the blame goes to the 6-5 EN play. There is no way the shooters at the point should've had as much time and space as they did. The Pens should've been much closer and aggressive rather than trying to pack it in. They've been aggressive on the PK all season, no reason the 6 on 5 kill to be different.


I can agree with that but I go back to that your goalie sometimes just has to make a save for you and the 4th and 5th goals, he just didn't
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 20, 2019, 10:10:20 AM
In other NHL news:

Marc Andre Fleury and the Vegas Golden Knights defeated the Leafs last night 4-2 and that gives Fleury his 450th career win. But he couldn't have done it without a ridiculous save he made late in the 3rd period when the Knights were clinging to a 3-2 lead. Shot bounces off the crossbar and right to a Leafs player and Fleury had to dive across the net and glove the puck for possibly the save of the year so far. I watched the game last night but here is an article I found with the save:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/vegas-golden-knights-marc-andre-fleury-makes-ridiculous-glove-save-on-toronto-maple-leafs-nic-petan-054531366.html
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on November 20, 2019, 10:15:43 AM
I feel like Murray has not stolen a single game for them in about 3 years now.

Just frustrating.

We didn't even need him to steal a game...a big save would have sufficed.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 20, 2019, 02:23:25 PM
Whenever I think about Murray and the two Cup rings he has in first two years, I remember Jagr won 2 in his first two years and 25 years later still had 2 Cups.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 20, 2019, 03:25:02 PM
Whenever I think about Murray and the two Cup rings he has in first two years, I remember Jagr won 2 in his first two years and 25 years later still had 2 Cups.


Whenever I think of those two cup rings, I think how Fleury had more of an influence with those wins than people would like to admit
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 21, 2019, 07:15:30 PM
Malkin scores early to give the Pens an early 1-0 lead over the Islanders. Now they need to keep scoring and keep this lead

Hornqvist also playing today which is very good to see
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 21, 2019, 08:03:13 PM
Pens canít play defense too much better than in that first period. Only let the Islanders get 5 shots but unfortunately, one goes in and the game is tied 1-1 after one period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 21, 2019, 08:21:17 PM
Rust gets an unassisted goal to give the Pens a 2-1 lead but Guentzel takes a double minor and now the Penguins have to kill a 4 minute penalty. Huge test for the Penguins penalty kill
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 21, 2019, 08:28:06 PM
 No luck. Islanders score on the power play and tie this game up again 2-2
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 21, 2019, 09:44:37 PM
Wow! Hornqvist is able to tie this game up with less than a minute left and this game is tied 3-3 and we are going to overtime again with the Islanders
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 22, 2019, 07:04:45 AM
Pens lose 4-3 in overtime again to the Islanders. Pens take 7 penalties and give up 2 power play goals. Refs were bad last night as they would call something ticky tacky but then not call Tanev getting boarded with less than 2 minutes left in the game. Guentzel also was cross checked in front of the net and when laying on the ice he took a shot to the back of the head. No call on the cross check and he was furious. When he got called for a penalty in the second period, he let the refs know about it and he got another 2 minutes which the Islanders capitalized on.

After that Tanev hit in the 3rd, ZAR and McCann got into some scuffles and the refs supposedly told McCann he was ejected so he left down the ramp but the refs then went to the bench and told Sullivan he wasn't ejected! By the time somebody got back to the locker room, he was already half undressed and had to quickly dress again and then had to wait for a stoppage before he could come back on the ice. Just a weird way to end regulation
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 22, 2019, 10:17:42 AM
The officiating looked really bad last night. That was the first game I've seen where it was playoff level terrible.

I do give the Pens credit for tying the game up and get the 1 pt. I wish Sullivan weren't so set on playing Murray all the time. Against a forechecking team like NYI, it would help to have a good puck-handling goalie like Jarry in there.

I see Toronto canned Babcock after signing him to that pricey long term contract. I guess the players quit on him.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 22, 2019, 11:47:47 AM
The officiating looked really bad last night. That was the first game I've seen where it was playoff level terrible.

I do give the Pens credit for tying the game up and get the 1 pt. I wish Sullivan weren't so set on playing Murray all the time. Against a forechecking team like NYI, it would help to have a good puck-handling goalie like Jarry in there.

I see Toronto canned Babcock after signing him to that pricey long term contract. I guess the players quit on him.


From your typing fingers to God's ears! Defense played good last night and the excuse I heard last night was - Well, Murray is trying to get used to the new defenseman in front of him! Really. Pens held the Islanders to 5 shots in the first period and for Murray to give up that goal was bad IMO. I am just so sick of people making every excuse for him instead of calling him out for his constant deficiencies that he apparently doesn't seem to want to work on. Hopefully now after saying all of this Jarry doesn't come out and stink up the ice tonight! LOL
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 22, 2019, 07:26:46 PM
What a goal by  Kahun to give the Pens a 1-0 lead early over the Devils. He looked like Crosby coming out of the corner and scored on the backhand over the goalies shoulder. Nice goal and glad to see Kahun picking his game up a little
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 22, 2019, 08:48:35 PM
Hall scored a power play goal early in the second period but Guentzel was able to score to give the Pens a 2-1 lead after two periods
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 22, 2019, 11:34:09 PM
Nice 4-1 win over NJ tonight, Kahun, Guentzel, McCann and Marino scored. Jarry looked strong in goal giving up only a PP goal.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 23, 2019, 07:05:04 AM
Nice 4-1 win over NJ tonight, Kahun, Guentzel, McCann and Marino scored. Jarry looked strong in goal giving up only a PP goal.

That Guentzel goal looked like it took the heart out of the Devils. Overall a good showing by the Penguins to defeat a team that has been a thorn in their side for several years. Agree on Jarry. He looked really good in goal and just looks quicker and more confident than Murray right now. I just wish Sullivan would realize this sooner rather than later.

And to your point on Babcock. I can see him becoming the coach of the new Seattle franchise
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 24, 2019, 05:46:52 PM
In a bit of good news/bad news, Kris Letang appears ready to re-join the Pens.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 24, 2019, 07:32:20 PM
In a bit of good news/bad news, Kris Letang appears ready to re-join the Pens.


That would be bad news IMO
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 25, 2019, 06:37:32 PM
Jarry starting in goal tonight. :o  Also, Letang back in the line up.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 25, 2019, 07:04:00 PM
Jarry starting in goal tonight. :o  Also, Letang back in the line up.

So glad to hear about Jarry
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 25, 2019, 07:31:32 PM
Galchenyuk gets his first goal as a Penguin and itís a power play goal that ties up this game 1-1
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 25, 2019, 08:45:22 PM
Galchenyuk gets his second point of the game on an assist on a McCAnn goal to give the Pens a 2-1 lead but Calgary scores a power play goal when Jarry loses his footing and canít get back to make the save

Game is tied 2-2 after 2 periods
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 25, 2019, 09:38:41 PM
Penguins clinging on to hold the tie and get this game to overtime. They are just on their heels and Calgary is skating rings around them. Jarry makes a huge save on the short side and this game is going to overtime

Difference between Murray and Jarry? Jarry made that huge save at the end of regulation- Errey calls it lucky. If Murray makes a save like that- Errey would say that was just excellent goalie mechanics to cover that short side. Just sayiní
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 25, 2019, 09:44:35 PM
What a goal by Guentzel and the Pens win this in overtime 3-2! Calgary was fuming as they thought too many men should have been called but the refs let it go.

Enough canít be said on the huge saves Jarry made in that overtime. Just huge saves and stoned a Calgary player on a breakaway. Huge game from Jarry
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 25, 2019, 10:12:52 PM
Jarry didn't get an assist on the scoresheet, but his pass up the boards lead to a quick exit enabling the Pens to get offensive zone time that lead to the McCann goal and 2-1 lead.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 26, 2019, 07:56:15 AM
Jarry didn't get an assist on the scoresheet, but his pass up the boards lead to a quick exit enabling the Pens to get offensive zone time that lead to the McCann goal and 2-1 lead.

Saw that and I was shocked that they did give Jarry a compliment on saying that he does play the puck very well outside the net. LOL
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on November 26, 2019, 08:14:48 AM
Difference between Murray and Jarry? Jarry made that huge save at the end of regulation- Errey calls it lucky. If Murray makes a save like that- Errey would say that was just excellent goalie mechanics to cover that short side

Mindblowing.  The Penguins media is either in cahoots or blind.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 26, 2019, 12:17:58 PM
I think some of that bias for Murray is juat a result of him playing so well when he came up 3 years ago and helped the team win 2 Cups. Murray did get a pretty good assist from MAF both years, but still he was the regular goalie on 2 Cup teams. I personally think Murray has regressed, or at least not improved, the last 2 seasons and Jarry is now the better goalie.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 27, 2019, 07:14:22 PM
After Jarry wins 2 in a row, Sullivan puts Murray back in net who has lost 4 in a row. Vancouverís young backup goalie is in net as the regular wasnít feeling well so we will see how this game turns out
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 27, 2019, 07:17:22 PM
Guentzel scores right off the face off on a Malkin face off win !

Pens up 1-0 early
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 27, 2019, 09:02:43 PM
After Rust scores a power play goal and the Pens go up 2-0, Vancouver comes roaring back and scores the next 4 and take the lead into the second intermission 4-2. Murray almost seems to look lost in the net and just doesnít have it. Leaving the 5 hole wide open, not quick like heís in slow motion and not covering the posts. Someone needs to explain to me why Sullivan continues to go back to Murray when he is playing this bad when Jarry is playing so good. I hope Murray likes coffee because he might be playing in Seattle soon!

Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 27, 2019, 09:06:10 PM
Guentzel scores a minute into the 3rd to pull the Penguins within one. Vancouver up 4-3

Canucks quickly go on a power play and score off a fluke of a goal of a Penguins stick. Canucks back up by 2 goals 5-3
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: KidRaven on November 27, 2019, 09:23:13 PM
Canucks went up 6-3 but Pens have scored three straight in short order to tie the game with 9:30 to go.  Wild one here!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 27, 2019, 09:26:11 PM
Canucks went up 6-3 but Pens have scored three straight in short order to tie the game with 9:30 to go.  Wild one here!


Not even sure how to describe what is going on. Pens pulled to 4-3 but then the Canucks get 2 fluky goals to make it 6-3 but the Penguins aren't giving up and as KR described, they come back and score three straight to tie up this wacky game 6-3. I'm sure the fans are loving it but Sullivan is probably pulling his hair out
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: KidRaven on November 27, 2019, 09:49:01 PM
Letang with the game winner and Malkin with empty net goal from the seat of his pants.  Pens win 8-6 after scoring the final 5 goals and 6 total in the 3rd period. 

Pens 8
Canucks 6
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 27, 2019, 10:27:34 PM
What a crazy game, but 2 pts any way you cut it.

Interesting that Sullivan pulled Murray with under 1 min left in the 2nd. I guess he'd seen enough.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 28, 2019, 06:18:56 AM
What a crazy game, but 2 pts any way you cut it.

Interesting that Sullivan pulled Murray with under 1 min left in the 2nd. I guess he'd seen enough.


I'm hoping he has seen enough. Penguins can't continue to keep coming back after Murray keeps giving up bad goals. Last night was horrendous. It honestly looked like he was sleepwalking in net or just didn't want to be there. Horrible to watch. Would love to hear Madden and 93.7 explain to me how this isn't Murray's fault. They can't continue to stick up for him. I'm gonna guess DeSmith will be called up soon and Murray is going to go down with a "lower body injury"
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on November 28, 2019, 09:49:42 AM
When he first came up, I thought Murray was very fundamentally sound. Not nearly as acrobatic and athletic as MAF, but positionally sound. But he seems to have regressed. I can't believe the Pens aren't showing him video of his first year or of his play in WBS vs his play this year and last. But maybe not, or if they are, maybe it's not getting through.

In any event, right now Jarry's the better, and to me the more confident, goalie.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 29, 2019, 07:09:42 PM
 Very sad news to report as I was wondering why Fleury has not been starting the past few games for the Knights. Saw that his dad was sick and he was spending time with him. My son then found on twitter that Fleuryís dad passed away. He was only 63 years old

My thoughts and prayers are with you Fleury
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 29, 2019, 08:05:16 PM
Pens were outplayed by Columbus in that first period and only got off three shots but the score is tied 1-1
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 30, 2019, 08:41:57 PM
Pens down 1-0 to St Louis after one period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: Bob.Gregg.WJPA.Radio on November 30, 2019, 08:51:34 PM
Play like last night, and so far tonight gets coaches fired.
The penalty kill was miserable, spending nearly entire 2:00 in the defensive zone, then couldn't clear puck and gave up goal shortly thereafter.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 30, 2019, 10:01:59 PM
Iíve noticed this season that when you shoot at Murray high, he shrugs down like he is scared of the puck and puts his head down. Youíre not gonna stop too many shots like that
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on November 30, 2019, 10:32:13 PM
Penguins lose their second game in a row 5-2. Losses to Columbus and St Louis
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 01, 2019, 05:41:30 AM
That 2nd goal was the killer. I know the puck was kind of a knuckleball, but it's never good when it goes right through the 5 hole.

Madden had a recent column in the Trib speculating the rash of injuries this season is due to age and number of games played for the Pens' core players. I think that's generally a good theory, but I also think the way Sullivan insists the Pens play - more or less a "heavy" game with aggressive forechecking - also is taking a physical toll. The Pens aren't a "heavy" team ala StL and CBJ. Although they are faster this season, they aren't able to dump the puck behind opposing d-men and get to it first nearly as much. Add to that, all the deterrent/enforcer players Rutherford has acquired don't get regular playing time from the head coach. That leaves the other players sitting ducks to be mashed at will by opponents, even opponents who aren't known for hitting. It was noticeable to me last year that when Gudbranson arrived and played, a lot of the nonsense stopped because now their was a viable cost an opponent would pay for cheap shots, etc. Sullivan couldn't wait to dump Gudbranson in favor of the completely useless Chad Ruhwedel and overmatched Zach Trotman, though, and now the Pens are again paying the price for having no one to protect the other skaters.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 01, 2019, 01:49:23 PM
A couple of those goals Murray gave up were pretty bad. That second goal I agree was bad but also the 4th and 5th goals were also bad goals. As I said before, he looks like he is shrugging down when you shoot high on him which takes away all that coverage high and he is not getting square to the shooter either.

Madden can talk about injuries or how the Pens play which are good arguments to have but the one they still fail to talk about is the play of Murray. This team will go nowhere if Murray continues to play like this
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 02, 2019, 05:13:36 AM
Dumoulin had surgery to repair lacerated tendons in his ankle. Apparently his was cut by the skate of whichever StL players fell over him.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 02, 2019, 07:51:43 PM
Dumoulin had surgery to repair lacerated tendons in his ankle. Apparently his was cut by the skate of whichever StL players fell over him.


They are saying he will be out for a minimum of 8 weeks. Ouch!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 02, 2019, 10:00:45 PM
Sounds similar to the injury Jordan Staal got when Subban skated over his foot.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 03, 2019, 05:44:27 PM
Good news- Schultz was back at practice today

Bad news - Sullivan reported that Hornqvist will be out longer term after getting hurt at practice yesterday. ZAR also missed practice today due to being sick. Rust also still not practicing
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 03, 2019, 07:40:13 PM
I love Hornqvist's game, but the injuries have really been piling up lately, especially the concussions. Maybe it's time for him to think of his long term health and hang up the skates after this season.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 03, 2019, 08:52:47 PM
I love Hornqvist's game, but the injuries have really been piling up lately, especially the concussions. Maybe it's time for him to think of his long term health and hang up the skates after this season.


I've been saying that for a while but I just don't think it will happen. As soon as he comes back from injury he goes straight to the front of the net and starts stirring it up. From what I heard though, his recent injury was just a freak fall at practice and nothing else but we also know how the NHL hides injuries. Rust is also still not back to practice and his injury was from slamming into the boards at practice
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: emm8 on December 04, 2019, 10:21:58 PM
St. L  0  -  Pit  3  (05:43 3rd)


    Pit goals-    
T. Blueger
S. Noesen
A. Galchenyuk

When have you seen a goals box score like that?

Keep up the good work

Simon's missed a couple golden opportunities also
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 04, 2019, 10:54:53 PM
And how about Jarry with the 28 save shut out. He is really making a case to be the #1 goalie in this team

De Smith was also named AHL goalie of the month for November. Just sayiní

Penguins donít play again until Saturday. I will be shocked if Jarry doesnít start
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 05, 2019, 06:44:24 AM
Simon really missed some glorious chances, but Rust and Hornqvist get back, he can't stay on the top line if he can't finish. It was nice to see Galchenyk get a goal on the breakaway.

Sullivan must like winning more than he does Murray because I'm kind of surprised he's turned to Jarry. Jarry's stick-handling skills are such a plus, especially with the defense featuring Ruhwedel and Trotman. Boucher asked him in the post-game if he thought about trying for the empty net. Jarry said he did, but thought better of it in the end.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on December 05, 2019, 10:27:20 AM
DeSmith has been awesome in WBS.

I would like to see a Jarry/DeSmith split with MM on IR (if he is indeed nursing an injury)

Unfortunately MM has been so bad this season that I would say the chances of him being drafted by Seattle are going to be slim to none. I would think that his value would be at an all-time low.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 05, 2019, 12:37:33 PM
Murray's been inconsistent, but he still has those 2 Cup rings on his resume. There are teams, perhaps Toronto or NJ, who might want a goalie with that resume. Also, like with MAF, Rutherford could give Seattle a draft pick if he really wanted to move Murray, although I'm not convinced the Pens do.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 05, 2019, 05:09:14 PM
I misspoke earlier, the Pens have back to back games Friday and Saturday. Kessel and Arizona come to town Friday and the Pens go to Detroit on Saturday

Rust and Schultz were full participants in practice today and are expected to be back Friday
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 05, 2019, 05:11:10 PM
Murray's been inconsistent, but he still has those 2 Cup rings on his resume. There are teams, perhaps Toronto or NJ, who might want a goalie with that resume. Also, like with MAF, Rutherford could give Seattle a draft pick if he really wanted to move Murray, although I'm not convinced the Pens do.


I agree. Murray was really good the beginning of the season but has just gotten worse since. Last 6 games Jarry is 5-1 with a 1.84 GAA and a .941 save percentage. If I was Sullivan, I would go with Jarry
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 05, 2019, 06:08:46 PM
In other NHL news:

Fleury was back on the ice today after taking a leave of absence after his father passed away. Havenít heard yet if he is starting tonight or not
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 06, 2019, 12:58:46 PM
Schultz activated from IR, Trotman re-assigned to WBS.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 06, 2019, 07:08:41 PM
Jarry is in net tonight

Phil Kessel back in the building. I'm sure he will get a nice tribute video
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 06, 2019, 07:46:09 PM
Pens and Arizona 0-0 after one period. Coyotes get a couple power play but nothing to show for it.

Looks like this game is going to be a defensive grind
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 06, 2019, 08:39:04 PM
Pens and Coyotes playing a scoreless, tight checking game after two periods. 1st team to make a mistake is gonna probably lose this game

Penguins did have a 5 on 3 for over a minute but they looked horrible

Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 06, 2019, 09:05:16 PM
Wide open net and Simon couldn't bury it! Ugh! And Malkin had almost the same play a few minutes before but the puck bounces over his stick
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 06, 2019, 09:06:55 PM
There it is!

Malkin puts in the rebound off the faceoff win and the Pens take a 1-0 lead with 12:47 left in the 3rd

Nice!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 06, 2019, 09:20:30 PM
What a penalty kill by the Penguins. Jarry made 4 or 5 awesome saves. Wow does he look good!

Watch Jarry when he is in net. It almost looks like he always knows where the posts are and never overextends himself so he is always in line to make a save if there is a rebound. He is playing so technically sound this season and is always in the right position
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 06, 2019, 09:30:29 PM
Crap! Rust takes a delay of game penalty with 12.5 seconds left. Gotta win a faceoff now
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 06, 2019, 09:32:49 PM
There's the nail in the coffin! Tanev with the empty net goal to make this a 2-0 game with 3 seconds left. One of the best low scoring hockey games I have seen in a while!

Jarry with back to back shutouts and he was awesome tonight. if there is any debate on who the #1 goalie is for this team, I think it was settled tonight.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 07, 2019, 05:57:52 AM
You and I might think Jarry's now the #1 guy, but Madden says no debate, Murray is still the man.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on December 07, 2019, 07:44:05 AM
You and I might think Jarry's now the #1 guy, but Madden says no debate, Murray is still the man.

I read that also. Which is why I laugh out loud when someone comes on here and used Madden to DEFEND their point.

In that article he's trying to articulate Murray's $$$$ value for his next big contract.

With him being a RFA this offseason they obviously have time to evaluate (no one is going to make him a free agent offer if the Pens make any kind of qualifying offer to him) so if they want Murray in the relative cheap they can for 2020-2021. But Madden sees him in the $8 million/ season range if I recall, which would be absurd IMO given his performance for the past three years.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 07, 2019, 09:35:12 AM
At the end of last season, Rutherford was asked about re-signing Murray. He said the same thing as you - that Murray's an RFA and he has time to evaluate. I know he has 2 rings, but he was also part of a goalie tandem with MAF on both, even though he played more than MAF. In the Pens' salary structure, he's not getting paid as much or more than Sid, Malkin or Letang.

Read the headline before the actual story, but the bottom line is the same, Madden essentially said Murray's still the #1 goalie even while sort of admitting that could change.

I thought Sullivan's post-game comments were interesting in that he acknowledged Jarry's stick-handling ability and rebound control are positives right now. Sullivan has always been viewed as Murray's biggest supporter, but those comments suggest he's more open-minded than he's believed to be.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 07, 2019, 02:46:24 PM
2 things I have always hated about Madden is that he will always stick up for Murray and Letang no matter what. I guarantee we will be having these same discussions when Letang is due his next contract.

What people like Madden and the flubs on the Fan fail to realize is that Fleury had a lot more to do with Murray winning those 2 rings than they want to admit. Sullivan was in that protect Murray mode though and would pull or bench Fleury when he would make one mistake and go back to Murray. Seems now that might be changing 
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 07, 2019, 07:20:18 PM
penguins get the first goal but it is being looked at as it may have got kicked in.

Refs look at it and say it is a good goal! Pens up 1-0. Not sure if the goal will go to Malkin or Guentzel
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 07, 2019, 07:22:02 PM
Goal goes to Guentzel. Assists given to Letang and Malkin
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 07, 2019, 07:44:40 PM
Ruhwedel gets the long range goal and the pens take the lead 2-0

Malkin with a great play to keep the puck in the zone and he will get his second assist today
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 07, 2019, 08:02:40 PM
Pens up 2-0 over Detroit after one period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 07, 2019, 08:28:20 PM
Pens give up a power play goal but Malkin scores soon after to give back that 2 point lead for the Pens

That's Malkin's 3rd point of the night and his 399th career goal
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 07, 2019, 08:45:47 PM
Pens up 3-1 over Detroit after 2 periods and have 1:35 left on their power play to start the 3rd 
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 07, 2019, 09:13:43 PM
Kahun with the goal early in the period just after the Pens power play expired and that gives the Penguins a 4-1 lead

Marino with the lone assist

Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 07, 2019, 09:37:44 PM
Here we go.

Pens give up another power play goal and now Detroit is only down by one, 4-3 with 2:50 left

2nd goal, Murray was just out of position as usual. 3rd goal, he just missed it and it went in low. Ugh!

Once again, pens are dominating but their opponent gets a little steam and Murray lets them back in the game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 07, 2019, 09:41:45 PM
Thank God!

Marino gets the empty net goal which is also considered a power play goal and the Pens are up 5-3 with 19 seconds left. And the pens win

Hopefully Sullivan is seeing the same thing as me and he plays Jarry the next game. Murray and the Pens got the win but those 3 goals given up were not good
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 07, 2019, 09:51:05 PM
Though Murray could have covered that second goal rather than letting play continue. He really needs to work on his rebound control and knowing when to stop play and when to let it continue.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 07, 2019, 10:16:23 PM
Though Murray could have covered that second goal rather than letting play continue. He really needs to work on his rebound control and knowing when to stop play and when to let it continue.


Couldn't agree more especially how far he let himself get out of the net
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 08, 2019, 05:36:34 PM
Well, I'll take 4 of 4 pts in any event.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 09, 2019, 04:15:27 AM
So we are 30 games into the season. Almost halfway through and the Penguins sit in 4th place in the Metro with 38 points and only one point ahead of Carolina with 37. If the playoffs started today Pens would be the 5th seed and facing the Flyers who are the 4th seed.

So who are your biggest disappointments and surprises so far? Disappointments, my top 2 are Murray and Galchenyuk. When the Pens win it is in spite of Murray IMO and Galchenyuk was supposed to be this connection with Malkin but he has been dropped to the 4th line.

Surprises (or standouts), I'm picking Marino, Tanev and Jarry. Marino has shown we can live without Schultz or Letang and can play anywhere on defense, Tanev has been that thorn in the opponents side that we haven't had since Cooke but Tanev knows how to play within the lines and has a scoring touch and Jarry has been an absolute stud in the net. Kahun maybe gets a few votes since he has been coming on lately but his slow start knocked him down a little IMO. 
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 09, 2019, 06:06:29 AM
JJ is having a solid season on defense. He's playing within himself and just being steady game in and game out. Letang, too.

Surprises? Marino for sure. Sam Lafferty has been solid defensively and shown a scoring touch. Jared McCann upping his game and looking like he won't be returning to winger any time soon.

Disappointments? Petterson, to me, hasn't played as well as last year. Maybe Galchenyk, but Sullivan was so quick to yank him off Malkin's line and bury him, it's hard to know exactly. Also, Galchenyk has shown a lot more physicality than I expected. ZAR by not showing much offense at all.

Better than expected? Tanev, Kahun, Rust

Murray's play hasn't surprised me since he's been regressing the past year or so. Jarry has lived up to my expectations.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on December 09, 2019, 10:58:12 AM
My first surprise of sorts is their record given all of the impact injuries. Crosby missing nearly half of the season to date, Horny on 10+ games, Malkin missed 9, Letang 8, Dumolin is on 7 and counting, Schultz earlier, etc. From a preseason "keys to their success" prediction all of those above names plus Murray and Geuntzel probably would have come up, so what they are doing with what they have is impressive. The youngsters and role players are playing hard and well for their coach.

In terms of players:

Matt Murray: There is performing and underachieving, and then there is a whole other level. First off, like BF, my expectations were lowish for him to begin with, but for me my expectations are still as ranking him as maybe a 15-20th best starting goalie in the NHL range. With that said, he has fallen way short of even those expectations. The numbers speak for themselves. Of all 74 goalies to appear in NHL games this season, here are Murray's rankings: GAA 32nd; Save% 51st; Quality Start% 46th; Goals Saved Against Average 55th. This is not even selectively nitpicking metrics to defend an argument...the only metrics that he is ok to good at are volume based ones such as wins and shutouts, and he does have a winning record at least. To add to all of this the Penguins defensive expected GA 5 on 5 is third in the NHL! Their PK is 13th. In other words, the "team isn't playing in front of him" argument, or the terrible PK argument, do not hold water. Really the only regulars who consistently rank below MM on these metrics are Rinne /Soros Nashville, Bobrovsky, Martin Jones, Dubnyk, Quick, the New Jersey hot mess, and the Detroit tandem. And all of their teams rank behind the Penguins as in terms of worse on team defensive metrics. My point being that Murray has not just been anecdotally/eye test bad, the numbers support that observation. Keeping in mind that as Penguins fans we know bad goaltending and good to ok goaltenders stuck behind bad defensive teams.

-Galchenyk kind of goes without saying has been on the bad side, also. Word is that he is already on the trading block. I feel like Rutherford likes to make a December move before the holiday break and the BYE week in January 1/22 thru 1/30, so there's a chance that something happens soon. We will see...if he cannot or does not make a move they simply need more from him regardless of line combinations and playing time.

-Petterson/Schultz I would not necessarily put into the "bad" category but they NEED more offense from one of them or both. The "team is better without Letang" argument does not work as well when they are lacking point producing puck moving Dmen. I like the games of both of these guys...just need to see a breakthrough on the score sheet. I am not ignoring Marino's production BTW...

-Marino is obviously in the good category. My only warning is that he is only 22, and young dmen have natural ebbs and flows, so they had better have their 7th/8th dmen set come April/May/June just in case. I am not saying by any stretch that they cannot count on him (my hope is that he dresses all 20+ games en route to a Stanley Cup win) but my concern is that as a young dman he may wear down, may feel the pressure from a team that tactically adjusts to him, and maybe just makes unaccecptable playoff time mistakes that a Jack Johnson would limit for instance.

-Jarry obviously in the good category. BF put him in "meets expectations" which is high praise, but I'll be honest...he is currently exceeding my expectations. He may just be ready to be an NHL #1

-The perceived weak links have not really overachieved or underachieved (ZAR, Simon, Reuwhedel come to mind)

-Tanev - I LOVE his game and am happy to see him breaking through on the score sheet more

-McCann's offensive production I would put into pleasant surprise range. I realize that he showed this last season also in a Pens jersey, but I feel like he has not had this good of an offensive stretch in his NHL career to date outside of his Pens' days. He is a solid all around player and I like his game as a whole.

-Rust's consistency has been a good thing. His big game play and intangibles has made him a relative keeper of sorts (reminds me of the old Redwings and the guys who always seemed to be on that roster such as Maltby and Draper, but in a Penguins offensive upside sort of way vs the Redwings discipline and defense sort of way), so his play to date in 2019-2020 has been a bonus for a guy who otherwise you keep around for playoff fortunes (Claude Lemieux or Nick Bonino).


Regarding their place in the standings I would not say expected or unexpected. So many variables (namely the Crosby and Malkin and Letang injuries and Murray's poor play) has obviously hampered the Pens some. If we were to line up the teams before the season I think that we still would have had Washington in first (given their talent and solid overall goaltending), but after that it would have been difficult to say as the in the mix teams all seem to be in the mix: (Pens were a sexy bouncback pick but also a sexy miss the playoffs pick; Islanders I don't think that anyone knew what to expect; Flyers their coaching upgrade, their acquisition of Niskannen, and Hart being more experienced were a sexy improvement pick; Hurricanes I think natural progression is expected but they played a ton of 1 goal games last season which always sets up for regression to the mean, even for a really well coached team). Devils have underachieved (they would have been lower tier "in the mix" but their goaltending has been awful by any standards. Rangers and CBJ probably where we would expect them (NYR still rebuilding; CBJ kind of rebuilding but when they are under-talented Torts seems to be at his best). At this point, assuming that Sid returns I would expect a playoff birth and probably a 2nd/3rd/4th place finish in the division that will be tight down to the end, and simply go from there.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 10, 2019, 04:47:29 PM
I agree with all your points bfgrad but I believe ZAR has transformed his game and has become a really good bottom 6 player. That 4th line with ZAR, Tanev and Blueger has become really hard to play against.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 10, 2019, 07:04:49 PM
Sully mAy finally be seeing what we have been saying for a while as Jarry is starting in net tonight
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 10, 2019, 07:14:44 PM
Guentzel gets his 17th goal of the season to give the Pens an early1-0 lead

Rust and Malkin get the assists
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 10, 2019, 08:44:24 PM
When it rains it pours. After not giving up any goals for almost 3 games, Jarry gives up 3 quick ones and now the Pens are down 3-1 after 2 periods
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 11, 2019, 05:29:41 AM
Pens lose 4-1 last night to the Canadiens. Penguins power play and penalty kill are just awful. 1st and 3rd goals were bad goals given up by Jarry. 4th goal was an empty net goal. Letang looked awful last night. Game really boiled down to a bad second period from the Penguins and they couldn't recover after that

In other NHL news:

Fleury started his first game since November 23rd after his dad's passing and gets a 5-1 win over Chicago. That's his 451st career win. 4 more wins and he will pass Curtis Joseph for 6th on the all time win list
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 12, 2019, 07:11:41 PM
Malkin out tonight due to an illness so Galchenyuk is moved up to the top line with Rust and Guentzel is at Center

Surprisingly, Jarry is in net again tonight after the 4-1 loss to Montreal on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 12, 2019, 07:53:16 PM
Pens and Columbus 0-0 after one period. I know Crosby and Malkin are out but the Penguins power play is just god awful. They really need to figure it out
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 12, 2019, 08:51:52 PM
Some low scoring games can be very exciting. This one is not. Pens and Columbus still 0-0 after two periods
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 12, 2019, 09:23:08 PM
How a penalty was not called on Dubois for a trip on Marino is beyond me. Refs swallowed their whistles in this game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 12, 2019, 09:25:18 PM
Both teams get a point and we are heading to overtime. 0-0 after 60 minutes
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 12, 2019, 09:36:13 PM
Only goal of the game and its an overtime winner from Bryan Rust and Jarry gets the 17 save shutout

Jarry made 2 beautiful plays to move the puck up the ice and force the Columbus players to have to stay on the ice. Jarry really showed his puck handling skills in that overtime
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 13, 2019, 03:56:58 AM
Nice win considering all the missing pieces. Not a lot of CBJ shots, but Jarry made the saves when called on. In the post-game interviews, Jack Johnson noted how Jarry's ability to handle the puck helped them get quick zone exits.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 13, 2019, 04:19:06 AM
Nice win considering all the missing pieces. Not a lot of CBJ shots, but Jarry made the saves when called on. In the post-game interviews, Jack Johnson noted how Jarry's ability to handle the puck helped them get quick zone exits.


He made some really good saves on several breakaways that Columbus had and that's what the Penguins need right now with all their big guns out, a goalie that will make the saves to keep them in the game long enough until the Pens can get that one shot to go in. And I agree with Jarry's puck handling. He is really good
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on December 13, 2019, 09:29:56 AM
Korpoaislo (sp?) CBJ goalie was the star of the game. Even with the Pens playing with a more conservative approach sans Malkin they still had the better of the chances.

With that said Jarry had some nice saves as well, and for the most part he seems clutch so far this year.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 13, 2019, 05:38:12 PM
It's not just the saves, but it seems to me that Jarry gives the Pens' d-men a sense of security with his stick-handling ability. They just look more confident exiting their own zone when Jarry's in net, but maybe that's me seeing something that's not really there.

Against a hard forechecking team like CBJ, having a goalie who can play the puck well is an invaluable asset.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 07:10:32 PM
Yes! Jarry in net again tonight and he will go against Quick who has t been that good this season but unfortunately has stepped up the past two games

Malkin is out again so the top line tonight is Guentzel centering in between Rust and Sullivanís favorite, Simon
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 07:34:29 PM
Pens give up the first goal where Jarry was left out to dry. No chance to save that one but Tanev was able to score right after to tie this game up but the Kings are challenging for goalie interference. I think the refs will say no goal

Yup. No goal. Bluegerís stick got in between the goalieís legs and tripped him up. Still 1-0 Kings
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 08:03:14 PM
Pens down 2-0 after one period. The defense has to be better. Letang was horrible on both of those goals

Huge hill to climb for the Penguins being down by 2 goals and their main scorers out of the game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 08:12:20 PM
Pens get a 3 on 2 and Rust is able to score off a nice feed from Guentzel. Pens still down 2-1 but still early in the second period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 08:38:52 PM
Penguins will get a 5 on 3 for 1:31. Letís see if they can convert. They havenít yet all season on a 2 man advantage
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 08:41:23 PM
Yes! Pens were able to keep the puck in and Rust gets his second goal of the game to tie this game up 2-2

Guentzel and Schultz with the assists
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 09:17:16 PM
Blueger has been playing really good lately and he gets rewarded as he is able to jam in the loose puck and gives the Penguins a 3-2 lead with 10 minutes left in the game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 09:25:49 PM
Jarry makes a huge save but Letang hits him in the hand and Kopatar gets a penalty shot. Iíve seen players hauled down and not get a penalty shot. Pretty weak call

Huge save by Jarry in that penalty shot! 2 huge saves by Jarry on Kopatar. Letang better go by and thank Jarry. Letang has been really bad this whole game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 09:29:23 PM
And right after Jarry makes those huge saves, Quick whiffs on a puck that flutters over his glove hit by Johnson and the Pens take a 4-2 lead with 7 minutes left
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 09:38:47 PM
There goes that lead as a shot goes off Jarryís pad right to a Kings player and a huge scramble in front squeaks free and both pucks go in and this game is tied 4-4 with 3 minutes left
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 09:43:25 PM
Off to overtime we go. Pens get a point but would be really nice to get both points off this last place team
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 09:51:20 PM
Nobody scores in overtime so a shootout we go to. Quick made some huge saves to keep it tied
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 14, 2019, 10:21:21 PM
 Very fitting that Rust is the only one to score in the shootout and the Pens win 5-4

Kinda bad that the Penguins needed to go to a shootout to beat the Kings who are a last place team but it was good to see the Pens battle back after going down 2-0. Yes, Letang did get 3 assists tonight but he was horrible defensively. Pens also need to find a different winger than Simon but maybe they did. Near the end it was Guentzel and Rust with McCann centering. Even with 4 goals against I thought Jarry was good. The 3rd goal was a bad rebound of his pads was maybe the only one I would blame on him
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 14, 2019, 11:04:49 PM
Letang and Marino have not been a good pairing for a few games now, imho. The love affair with Ruhwedel is puzzling, but playing him means 1 RH d-man has to play his off-side. That's meant Letang and he doesn't look nearly as comfortable there as might be expected. The kicker is Ruhwedel hasn't been playing well enough to stay in the line up. I'd like to see Riikola dress and pair with Marino and put JJ with Letang. JJ's been solid this season and will allow Letang to play his game.

Simon must drive the coaches nuts. He does everything, but score. But, maybe he will break through like Dupuis and Rust did. At least, here's hoping.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: KidRaven on December 15, 2019, 01:18:58 AM
The Atlantic Division (outside of Boston) is looking rough and a few of their top teams are under performing (TB and Toronto).  Itís only December but the Metro easily looks like the deeper and better division in the East.  I expect Tampa will figure things out but both Wild Cards may come from the Metro this year.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 15, 2019, 09:12:12 AM
Letang and Marino have not been a good pairing for a few games now, imho. The love affair with Ruhwedel is puzzling, but playing him means 1 RH d-man has to play his off-side. That's meant Letang and he doesn't look nearly as comfortable there as might be expected. The kicker is Ruhwedel hasn't been playing well enough to stay in the line up. I'd like to see Riikola dress and pair with Marino and put JJ with Letang. JJ's been solid this season and will allow Letang to play his game.

Simon must drive the coaches nuts. He does everything, but score. But, maybe he will break through like Dupuis and Rust did. At least, here's hoping.


I agree about Letang. Marino to me is not the problem, he looks good. Agree on Johnson also. Hasn't been living up to his contract but he has been playing good. It is puzzling to me that they keep scratching Riikola and putting in Ruhwedel. To me, you need finishers on that top line with Crosby and Simon has never been it. I get the feeling Murray will get the start on Tuesday against Calgary but I would have to believe Jarry is the #1 goalie in their eyes now

And I agree on the Atlantic Division KR. Boston looks like a juggernaut but everyone else looks bad right now. Maybe not bad but the teams in the Metro look much better
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: emm8 on December 15, 2019, 12:44:15 PM

 Very fitting that Rust is the only one to score in the shootout and the Pens win 5-4


I guess I never gave this much thought before, but is it actually true?  I understand that when Rust scored the SO goal (to give him 3 goals on the night) that it doesn't technically qualify as a hat trick, but do the 100 or so fans that hoisted their hats onto the ice actually "NOT" get their hats back, as was announced by the announcing crew?  If so, I guess it would be wise to bring at least one crappy hat to the game, as baseball fans often bring a crappy baseball to throw back onto the field when razzed about giving back a visiting teams home run ball.  How much trouble could it be to go through the same process considering the situation probably only occurs once or twice a year at best?   ???

I haven't been to many hockey games over the years, and I certainly wouldn't be throwing any hat I'd actually be willing to be seen wearing in public, and had an affection for, onto the ice...unless maybe game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals.  Is that really the arena policy?
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: emm8 on December 15, 2019, 12:51:41 PM

Simon must drive the coaches nuts. He does everything, but score. But, maybe he will break through like Dupuis and Rust did. At least, here's hoping.


Not to say that Simon is the next coming of Jaromir Jagr, he's not, but he (Jagr) fits this description to a "T".  I remember Jagr's rookie and second season, and would just get so exasperated watching him do something amazing to get a scoring chance, and then just not finishing.  Fortunately, it really came together in short order for him a little later on.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 15, 2019, 01:52:22 PM
emm8

From what I understand, hats that get thrown on the ice get donated to local charities so I would say no, they don't get their hats back and yes, I know a lot of people that take a crappy hat with them to throw on the ice
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 15, 2019, 02:15:45 PM
I believe that SO goals do not count as individual stats, but as team stats, thus no hat trick for Rust.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on December 15, 2019, 02:33:23 PM
I don't know if they still have it but Nationwide Arena in Columbus has in the main concourse a giant tank like display of all of the hats collected from hat tricks (all time...keeping mind that CBJ has not had too many as a young franchise that's traditionally defensive anyways).
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 15, 2019, 05:21:03 PM
I believe that SO goals do not count as individual stats, but as team stats, thus no hat trick for Rust.


This is correct
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: emm8 on December 15, 2019, 06:20:01 PM

emm8

From what I understand, hats that get thrown on the ice get donated to local charities so I would say no, they don't get their hats back and yes, I know a lot of people that take a crappy hat with them to throw on the ice



I believe that SO goals do not count as individual stats, but as team stats, thus no hat trick for Rust.


I knew that the goal did not count toward the hat trick, and am perfectly okay with the reasoning.  But what I thought happened on a legitimate hat trick (maybe incorrectly) was that people that threw their hats on the ice were able to retrieve their hats from a common area after the game, if they chose to; and then, any "unclaimed" hats were offered to charity.  Add that to the way Mears made the pronouncement, and it appeared to back my version of that up.  He stated something to the effect that...because it was "NOT" a recognized hat trick, those who threw the hats were SOOL.  I would have to hear what he said again.  Unfortunately, I DVR'd it, but then deleted it right after the game ended.  Maybe I misunderstood how it works for a legit hat trick.  Maybe you can't get your property back.  I took what he said as it being a completely different situation than what is followed for a legit hat trick.

I've never thrown a hat in that situation, so maybe no one on here has either.  Or maybe they never knew they could get the hat back (if it truly is an option).  Or maybe someone has thrown a hat, and just never wanted the thing back!  LOL   ;D

If I ever get the opportunity to toss a hat in the future (odds of a million to 1), I think I'll grab my sons hat off his head, and then try to get it back.  If not, I'll just have to buy him another.  His hats would almost all qualify as "crappy" hats, as far as I'm concerned!   ;)   ;D

FWIW, my son's 28, not 11, even though he might fuss about the hat like an 11 year old.  Don't worry, beside the new hat, I'd probably have to give him a "Jackson" ($20), too!  He'd get over it...eventually...maybe.   ;)

Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 15, 2019, 07:14:15 PM
I threw my hat on the ice once back when the Mellon Arena was around and I never heard of people going somewhere to get their hat back. I always heard they were given to charities.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: emm8 on December 15, 2019, 08:02:14 PM
I threw my hat on the ice once back when the Mellon Arena was around and I never heard of people going somewhere to get their hat back. I always heard they were given to charities.

I see that the Pens/Kings game is being re-aired tomorrow afternoon.  I already set the DVR.  I'm going to try to see if I could have misinterpreted what Mears said.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 15, 2019, 08:25:30 PM
I threw my hat on the ice once back when the Mellon Arena was around and I never heard of people going somewhere to get their hat back. I always heard they were given to charities.

I see that the Pens/Kings game is being re-aired tomorrow afternoon.  I already set the DVR.  I'm going to try to see if I could have misinterpreted what Mears said.


So I just googled it and most teams donate them to charity. Other teams hold them for 90 days and you can claim your hat and unclaimed hats get donated. Some hold all season and at the end of the season unclaimed hats get donated. Some keep in a display in the arena and the Penguins were donating to a charity called hats 4 humanity that would donate to the homeless but it said that they no longer do that but didnít say what they are doing now. If you hear what Mears says, let us know
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 15, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
AFAIK, the Penguins get the hats cleaned, then donate them. I'd guess the really beat up ones are tossed.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: emm8 on December 15, 2019, 09:53:59 PM
I threw my hat on the ice once back when the Mellon Arena was around and I never heard of people going somewhere to get their hat back. I always heard they were given to charities.

I see that the Pens/Kings game is being re-aired tomorrow afternoon.  I already set the DVR.  I'm going to try to see if I could have misinterpreted what Mears said.

 If you hear what Mears says, let us know


Will do.  It should only take a minute to find it at the very end.  Unfortunately, it may have been in the immediate post game stuff that it came up (obviously it ended in the shootout).  The re-air may end without any of the post game comments?  I don't usually watch more than 1 or 2 re-airs during a decade, yet alone a season.  I just seem to remember that Mears seemed to be relaying some unpleasant news for anyone expecting to get their hat back.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 15, 2019, 09:58:13 PM
I would just find it funny for anybody that would be willing to throw their hat on the ice to expect to get it back.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: emm8 on December 16, 2019, 07:37:48 PM
I would just find it funny for anybody that would be willing to throw their hat on the ice to expect to get it back.

Okay.  I just watched the replay, and I really haven't cleared anything up, but this.  It wasn't Mears, but Errey who immediately said something to the effect of "Wow, there's hats on the ice, but that's not a hat trick.  I don't think I've ever seen that before.  And...they're not getting their hats back!"  So, I may have read too much into it?  Or not?  I admit, for some reason, I was always under the impression that anyone that wanted those hats back could go and get them for some period of time.  I don't really know why I thought that, or that it is (or isn't) still true.  All I know for sure is that Errey says "those" people have officially donated "those" hats to charity or Waste Management.   ;D

I do agree with you hs about people that throw their hats probably shouldn't be expecting to get them back, but I also am now questioning why so many people do it if you can't get it back?  Or, why so many people would be willing to wear a crappy hat all night just for the odd chance you might get to throw it?   ;D  Do they buy a junk hat on the way past KMart in route to the game?  How many crappy hats do some people own?  Or do hockey fans just accumulate every crappy hat they see?  Oh well, still a mystery for now.   ;)
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 16, 2019, 09:12:43 PM
NJ Devils are already selling away their team as they ship former MVP Taylor Hall to the Coyotes for prospects and 2 draft picks. Signing Subban and Simmonds and having the #1 draft pick Hughes did nothing for the Devils as they are in last place in the Metro
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 17, 2019, 09:10:59 PM
Jarry is in net again tonight against Calgary. Malkin and Rust were game time decisions but they are both on the top line with Guentzel

Lets Go Pens!!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 17, 2019, 09:34:45 PM
Schultz takes a hit and he is done for the rest of the game. Ouch!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 17, 2019, 10:05:29 PM
Pens down 1-0 to Calgary after one period. penguins would be down 5-0 if it wasn't for some great saves from Jarry. Calgary probably spent 18 of the 20 minutes of the first period in the offensive zone. Pens need to change that and quick
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 17, 2019, 10:24:22 PM
Marinoooooooo!!!! Just as the power play expires Marino wrists one in the net to tie this game up 1-1 with 7:30 left in the second period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 17, 2019, 10:33:02 PM
Rust scores right after and the Pens now have a 2-1 lead late in the 2nd

Jarry is standing on his head to keep the Pens in this game. What a game by Jarry so far
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 17, 2019, 11:27:43 PM
Malkin gets his 400th goal on an empty netter and that gives the Pens a 3-1 lead with 1:58 left.

Just before that Jarry had a chance at an empty net goal but a diving stop by a Calgary player at their blue line stopped it. Would've been so nice to see Jarry score

Letang now gets an empty netter to make it 4-1 pens!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 17, 2019, 11:30:34 PM
What a performance by Jarry tonight as the Penguins came out very sluggish in that first period and Jarry made some great saves in the first and second to keep the Pens in this game and the Penguins kept plugging along and win 4-1 over the Calgary Flames

Can Jarry qualify for rookie of the year??
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 18, 2019, 01:00:19 AM
In other NHL news:

Congrats to marc Andre Fleury for getting his 453rd win tonight and puling only 1 behind Curtis Joseph to tie him for 6th on the all time list. He is also only 3 behind Henrik Lundqvist who is at 5th all time at 456 wins
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 18, 2019, 05:25:57 AM
Doubtful Jarry would qualify as a rookie. He's been playing very well, but we'll see how it goes the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on December 18, 2019, 06:51:43 AM
On NHL.com he is not listed as a rookie not that that is the end all.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 18, 2019, 11:20:26 AM
Here's the official parameters to qualify as a "rookie": http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26377

Quote
Rookie Qualifications
To be considered a rookie, a player must not have played in more than 25 NHL games in any preceding seasons, nor in six or more NHL games in each of any two preceding seasons. Any player at least 26 years of age (by September 15th of that season) is not considered a rookie.

Interesting in that one can be an actual rookie, as in never having played in the NHL, at age 26 or older, but isn't by rule a "rookie".

Jarry played in 26 (23 starts) games in 2017-18, 1 over the limit, otherwise he would be considered a rookie.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on December 18, 2019, 01:09:38 PM
Thanks bf
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 20, 2019, 09:12:52 PM
Penguins taking on Edmonton tonight and Jarry is in net! Rumor was they were going to let Jarry start tonight due to him playing juniors in Edmonton but IMO, they are keeping Murray away from blowing up against McDavid

I wish Crosby was playing tonight against McDavid and Madden said it best on why Crosby is still better than McDavid as not only is Crosby's 200 foot game better but McDavid gets you the 3 goals you don't need but Crosby will get you the one goal you do need

Let's GO Pens!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 20, 2019, 09:24:28 PM
Ruhwedel scores as his shot sneaks past Smith with a lot of traffic in front of him. No way he saw that shot

Pens up 1-0 early
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 20, 2019, 09:44:11 PM
After the Pens kill off his penalty, Blandisi with the pretty goal coming out of the box and he gives the Pens a 2-0 lead

Pens take another penalty against the #1 power play. They have to be more disciplined than this but Jarry is making the saves right now
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 20, 2019, 10:13:55 PM
Edmonton gets a goal off a redirection in front of Jarry. No chance for him to stop that as he was also in good position for the shot. This is what happens for both teams when you get people in front of the net

Pens still up 2-1 with 13 minutes left in the second period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 20, 2019, 10:29:45 PM
Edmonton is being real sloppy with the puck and the Penguins are taking advantage as McCann gets a breakaway and buries it to give the Pens that 2 goal lead again 3-1 with 4 minutes left in the second period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 20, 2019, 10:38:01 PM
That hurts and that's a bad goal to give up. Malkin tries a bad pass on the power play and Edmonton has a 3 on 2 shorthanded goal with 22 seconds left in the second. Ouch

Pens up 3-2 after 2 periods
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 20, 2019, 11:02:08 PM
Letang with the power play goal and that gives the Pens that 2 goal lead again early in the third period 4-2
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 20, 2019, 11:27:21 PM
Edmonton scores but it is waived off as McDavid is called for interfering with Jarry but I think the Penguins May have gotten a huge break as it looked like he mightíve been pushed into Jarry. Iíll take it though as the Penguins are still up 4-2 with 2:26 left and the Edmonton goalie pulled
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 20, 2019, 11:28:09 PM
Pens win the face off and Tanev with the empty net goal and lead this game 5-2!!!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 20, 2019, 11:39:53 PM
Nice win for the Penguins tonight as they defeat the Oilers 5-2 and Jarry gets his 10th win in the last 12 games. Slow start for the Pens but they recovered nicely and took advantage of a few mistakes made by the Oilers. Jarry had some shots of the post but was once again really good in net. Edmonton got a lot of traffic in front but Jarry was able to fight through most of it.

Now on to Vancouver for another game tomorrow night
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 21, 2019, 06:45:28 AM
McDavid definitely interferred with Jarry. He had Jarry's one leg trapped between his skates and Jarry couldn't move to get back and make a save. McDavid made no effort to try and get out of Jarry's way. Edm's coaches looked at it and decided not to challege which says all you need to know.

Game got chippy at the very end when Malkin charged the net trying to score and bumped into Smith who then charged out and gave Malkin a hard cross-check right in the chest. That led to a big scrum but no injuries.

A good win for the Pens in any event.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on December 21, 2019, 10:42:19 AM
15-0-4 in their last 19 vs Edmonton now.

Their last regulation loss to the Oilers I believe was the game that brought on the famous "soff" press conference from Michel Therrien 
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 21, 2019, 03:04:42 PM
McDavid definitely interferred with Jarry. He had Jarry's one leg trapped between his skates and Jarry couldn't move to get back and make a save. McDavid made no effort to try and get out of Jarry's way. Edm's coaches looked at it and decided not to challege which says all you need to know.

Game got chippy at the very end when Malkin charged the net trying to score and bumped into Smith who then charged out and gave Malkin a hard cross-check right in the chest. That led to a big scrum but no injuries.

A good win for the Pens in any event.


Oh, he definitely interfered with Jarry. I was just trying to make a point on how iffy some of these refs calls are with interference as if sometimes they see barely a hand touch a player and the player bumps the goalie they will say he was pushed into or sometimes a player can body slam another player on top of the goalie and the ref will say no interference! LOL. A little extreme but you get my point. But I agree, I good win for the Pens
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 21, 2019, 10:35:51 PM
9:30 left in the first period of the Pens vs Vancouver and we get our first shot on goal!

And now Simon takes a double minor for high sticking

Damnit! Tanev takes a 2 minute penalty so Vancouver gets a 5 on 3 for a full 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 21, 2019, 10:41:09 PM
Vancouver scores after Murray made some huge saves but Pittsburgh is challenging for offsides! Wow! this will be huge. Vancouver was in the zone for over 40 seconds

No goal! But Johnson takes another penalty for tripping !!!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 21, 2019, 10:57:41 PM
Penguins go an entire period without even registering 1 shot and they also give up 2 power play goals so when you add it up Pens are down 2-0 after one period. Hopefully Sullivan can fire this team up and they come out for the second period with a fire lit under everyone!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 21, 2019, 11:18:58 PM
Sorry, but that was a cheap hooking penalty on Tanev that lead to the 5 on 3s.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 21, 2019, 11:29:18 PM
Sorry, but that was a cheap hooking penalty on Tanev that lead to the 5 on 3s.

Refs have not been good the whole game so far. Bad penalty calls on both teams. Penguins just couldn't capitalize on their power plays
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 21, 2019, 11:37:39 PM
Pens get a 4 minute PP after a high stick to Guentzel. They need to take advantage of this
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 21, 2019, 11:41:46 PM
Guentzel scores! Pens show some life but they are still down 2-1
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 21, 2019, 11:45:53 PM
Never mind. Murray gives up a bad one as once again he crouches and holds his glove too low and gives p the top of the net. Vancouver up 3-1
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 22, 2019, 12:38:23 AM
4 goals given up on only 14 shots. Murrayís confidence looks shot. 3rd and 4th goals were not good. He just looks so small in the net now. Just a frustrating night where the Penguins couldíve moved ahead of Carolina and edged closer to the Islanders in the standings
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 22, 2019, 09:21:02 AM
I just don't understand how Murray could have regressed so much from when he first arrived. He was pretty fundamentally sound then, but now he just doesn't look the same to me. Maybe he'll never have a great glove, but at least he can be more positionally sound. Jarry when he plays seems to be upright a lot more often. Murray, as you say, seems to make himself "small" too much of the time. But, that said, I think that 4 minute 5-on-3 might have taken something out of him last night. He had to make a lot of really tough saves.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on December 22, 2019, 11:09:04 AM
It's funny but I kind of think that his regression is overestimated in that he was never that solid to begin with

2016 he was great in the NYR series and early in the Washington series until they figured him out. After that Infelt that they won in spite of him (regardless of his numbers in the San Jose series).

2017 once he was inserted vs Ottawa the team in front of him just played better defense than they did for the first 2+ rounds in front of MAF. Even with his shutouts in the Nashville series he never once stole them a game.

I guess that my take on him is that his NHL best was in early may 2016 and since then he certainly hasn't improved and if anything has  regressed slightly.

To that point though I will still never bury GMJR for his decision making regarding the Murray/Fleury controversy.  Most NHL GMs would have made the exact same decision,  and because of the financials involved they honestly would maybe even make that same decision again. Again, there is a template to winning this way (Chicago earlier in the decade went cheap on goaltending and spent elsewhere) while loading up on goaltending does not always equal gold, either (see the Lundqvist era Rangers).
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 22, 2019, 03:57:24 PM
I disagree about Murray when he first came up. I thought he was technically sound, much more than he is right now.
Murray was Sullivan's guy in WBS and that, imho, is why MAF got shown the door. Jarry had a much better pedigree having won the Memorial Cup with his jr team. The right move would've been to keep MAF and groom Jarry as his successor. The better move would've been to trade Murray after his 2 Cup wins and before it was widely noticed his play was slipping. I'd still look to move Murray as there are teams that need goalies. Pens still have DeSmith signed for another couple of years as a back up to Jarry. And maybe a change of scenery or system would help Murray rediscover his magic.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 22, 2019, 05:00:44 PM
I disagree about Murray when he first came up. I thought he was technically sound, much more than he is right now.
Murray was Sullivan's guy in WBS and that, imho, is why MAF got shown the door. Jarry had a much better pedigree having won the Memorial Cup with his jr team. The right move would've been to keep MAF and groom Jarry as his successor. The better move would've been to trade Murray after his 2 Cup wins and before it was widely noticed his play was slipping. I'd still look to move Murray as there are teams that need goalies. Pens still have DeSmith signed for another couple of years as a back up to Jarry. And maybe a change of scenery or system would help Murray rediscover his magic.



Couldnít agree more with this bfgrad. I also thought Murray was good to start and he has been regresssing badly. Also agree with your points on Jarry and Fleury
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on December 22, 2019, 05:20:35 PM
I just don't know of any NHL GM who would have made that move (keep MAF and trade Murray). Honestly if GMJR wasn't bold enough to do it no one would.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 22, 2019, 06:18:50 PM
Rutherford doesn't make trades in a vacuum. I think he understood Sullivan preferred Murray and Murray had played well, so he felt comfortable sending MAF and this year's 2nd round choice to LV for them to take MAF in the expansion draft. Rutherford also has been surprisingly non-commital about signing Murray to a long term deal, too.

As MAF has shown, he's got plenty of good hockey left in his tank. Certainly enough that LVK signed him to a contract extension.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 22, 2019, 06:45:22 PM
I haven't heard one GM either that said they would've kept MAF over Murray but I am just saying I would have. As bfgrad stated, Murray was Sullivan's pick since the minors and he made every excuse to constantly pull Fleury and put in Murray. I honestly don't think Fleury would've wanted to stay here and play for Sullivan but that is just my opinion because Fleury was the absolute best team mate his entire time in Pittsburgh, even at the end when he was being yanked around by Sullivan. Even if he was ever feeling that he will never come out and say it
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 27, 2019, 07:03:21 AM
Long story on Jarry from the PG: https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins/2019/12/27/tristan-jarry-penguins-goaltender-mask-kristians-pelss/stories/201912260105

Interesting that he's ambidextrous.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 27, 2019, 08:14:52 PM
Well thereís a Christmas present for all! Simon scores to gives the Pens an early 1-0 lead over Nashville
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 27, 2019, 08:17:22 PM
Wild start as Nashville comes right back and scores and toes this game up 1-1
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 27, 2019, 08:39:30 PM
Pens get a power play goal from Galchenyuk and now lead 2-1

Now seconds later Blueger puts in the rebound and now the Pens lead 3-1 and chase Rinne out of goal for Nashville

How about Simon And Galchenyuk scoring for Pittsburgh!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 27, 2019, 09:18:32 PM
Rust scores to make it 4-1 Pens. Guentzel and Malkin get the assists

Jarry is making huge saves so far in this game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 27, 2019, 09:39:24 PM
Rikkola gets his first of the season as he would not be denied and got several chances at it in front of the net. Pens up 5-1 now late in the second period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 27, 2019, 10:42:07 PM
Great win for the Pens tonight as they defeat Nashville 5-2. I guess when you see Simon, Galchenyuk and Rikkola on the scoresheet you would have to assume it would be a win. Itís getting said a lot but Jarry played outstanding tonight. 2 goals given up by Jarry were off deflections. I know it wonít happen but I wouldnít object to seeing Jarry start again tomorrow night
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 28, 2019, 03:23:39 AM
No one would've guessed 4 of the 5 goal scorers as Simon, Galchenyk, Bluegar and Riikola. Riikola actually scored twice on his goal for good measure. Jarry came within a whisker of scoring into an empty net, too.

Jarry did play a nice game and Nashville really pressed most of the last 2 periods despite being down to 5 (or fewer) D and 11 F. I have to say I like the line of Galchenyk/McCann/Kahun. That will mkae a nice 3rd line when Crosby returns.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 28, 2019, 07:12:25 PM
32 seconds into the game and Rust scores and assisted by Guentzel and Malkin. 1-0 pens very early in this game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 28, 2019, 07:13:46 PM
Wow! Make it 2-0 as Kahun scores. Predators are all just standing around watching right now
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 28, 2019, 07:30:49 PM
Letang gets the power play goal and the Pens now lead 3-0 and not even 10 minutes into the game. Malkin and Rust get the assists and the Predators switch goalies for the second night in a row
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 28, 2019, 08:21:26 PM
After the Pens give up a goal, Galchenyuk scores on the power play to give the Pens a 4-1 lead. Thatís a goal for Galchenyuk in back to back games
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 28, 2019, 08:39:25 PM
Here we go! There is that bad goal given up by Murray that puts Nashville right back in this game down 4-2 late in the second period. Murray too far out and not covering the post and it sneaks past him and gives the Predators all kind of momentum. Ugh!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 28, 2019, 08:43:55 PM
This is frustrating. Now it is 4-3 Penguins with less than a minute left in the second period. pens have to refocus and win this game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 28, 2019, 09:25:09 PM
Game is tied 4-4. I have no words
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 28, 2019, 09:41:05 PM
Penguins score on a power play with 1:03 left in the game but it is u see review to make sure it went all the way over the line

Good goal! 5-4 Penguins with 1:03 left in the game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 28, 2019, 09:44:55 PM
Rust with the empty netter and this game is over. 6-4 pens with 37 seconds left

Guentzel got that power play goal

IMO, this was one of those typical Murray games where he gives up 2 or 3 bad goals and lets the other team sneak back in the game, tie it, win it or take it into overtime. Luckily the Predators took a bad late penalty and the Penguins capitalized
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 29, 2019, 04:52:24 AM
In other NHL news:

Fleury gets his 454th career win last night as the Knights defeat the Coyotes 4-1 and take sole possession of first place in the Pacific. Fleury is now tied with Curtis Joseph in 6th all time in wins with 454. Lundqvist is 4 ahead with 458
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 29, 2019, 09:19:25 AM
Murray did face 48 shots, most in the 2nd and 3rd periods so can't complain too much about giving up 4 goals - a .917 save %.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 30, 2019, 07:52:43 PM
Malkin scores early and Simon, yes Simon, scores late as the Penguins take a 2-0 lead into the locker room after one period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 30, 2019, 08:16:23 PM
Great several shifts after giving up a goal, the Pens respond and Malkin gets his second goal of the game to get that two goal lead back 3-1. Rust with an assist and Guentzel gets his second assist of the game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 30, 2019, 08:41:20 PM
Loving the Penguins resilience in this game as the Senators sore to make it 3-2 but right after Hornqvist scores to restore that 2 goal lead again 4-2
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 30, 2019, 09:18:17 PM
Good news and bad news. Guentzel scores but he trips over a stick and slams hard into the boards and goes straight to the locker room holding his right arm/wrist. That didnít look good at all. Hopefully he is okay.

Pens up 5-2 but the more important thing now is Guentzelís health
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 30, 2019, 09:50:41 PM
A nice, solid win by the Pens, but the refs really let the game get out of control. They completely missed a text book cross-check in the back on Malkin, right in front of the face-off circle in Ott's end, then they send both guys off for roughing. Blandisi gets high-sticked in the mouth and no call. Ottawa was busy cross-checking and punching Letang and Malkin all game. Late, the refs send Rust to the box for interference and you can hear someone say "That's what you call?" after nearly an entire game of non calls. Then with 13 secs left, Tkachuk goes after Malkin again and a big scrum ensues.

However, this game demonstrates why the Pens need an enforcer type like Gudbranson so this nonsense never gets started.

Agree about hoping Guentzel is ok, but it sure looked bad like a wrist, elbow or arm injury.

Thought Galchenyk's had a lot of hop lately and he looked comfortable stepping up with Malkin and Rust after Guentzel went out.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 30, 2019, 10:01:44 PM
At the mid-point of the season, Pens sit 2nd in the Metro, 1 ahead of NYI (2 games in hand) and 7 behind Wash and 3rd overall in the Eastern Conf. Their goal differential is 2nd by 2 behind Boston. They are quietly sneaking up on everyone.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 31, 2019, 09:03:10 AM
A nice, solid win by the Pens, but the refs really let the game get out of control. They completely missed a text book cross-check in the back on Malkin, right in front of the face-off circle in Ott's end, then they send both guys off for roughing. Blandisi gets high-sticked in the mouth and no call. Ottawa was busy cross-checking and punching Letang and Malkin all game. Late, the refs send Rust to the box for interference and you can hear someone say "That's what you call?" after nearly an entire game of non calls. Then with 13 secs left, Tkachuk goes after Malkin again and a big scrum ensues.

However, this game demonstrates why the Pens need an enforcer type like Gudbranson so this nonsense never gets started.

Agree about hoping Guentzel is ok, but it sure looked bad like a wrist, elbow or arm injury.




Thought Galchenyk's had a lot of hop lately and he looked comfortable stepping up with Malkin and Rust after Guentzel went out.



Agree on the refs. I think only 3 power play totals last night? Crazy for all the things that were going on. Blandisi lost a few teeth on his high stick and Malkin and Letang were getting abused from start to finish in that game. Since the Senators can't win I guess they just turned into a goon squad. Jarry once again, played excellent. Can't blame him on either of those goals. Agree on Galchenyuk also. He looked good last night. But as I said before, my main concern right now is the health of Guentzel. Luckily, if you want to call it that, our next game isn't until Thursday. Hopefully we hear something about Guentzel today
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: KidRaven on December 31, 2019, 11:22:30 AM
Guentzel our 4-6 months after needing shoulder surgery.  Injuries are the story of the year with Pittsburgh teams it seems.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on December 31, 2019, 11:51:56 AM
Guentzel our 4-6 months after needing shoulder surgery.  Injuries are the story of the year with Pittsburgh teams it seems.

Ouch. Well that probably changes the complexion of the trade deadline etc. Just wow.

Wishing him a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 31, 2019, 12:01:44 PM
Guentzel our 4-6 months after needing shoulder surgery.  Injuries are the story of the year with Pittsburgh teams it seems.


That really hurts
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 31, 2019, 12:48:00 PM
As bad as this is, it could have been a whole lot worse had Guentzel gone head first into the boards and suffered a head and/or neck injury. His shoulder will heal and he is done for the season, but I am thankful the injury was not more serious.

I think Galchenyk will pick up his game. This might mean Jared McCann will move back to wing with Sid.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 31, 2019, 05:06:23 PM
Pretty cool little bit of info I just saw watching a stream of the Vegas Golden Knights game going on now against Anaheim. They had broken down the winningest goalie of each decade since 1930 and the 2010's most winning goalie is Marc Andre Fleury with 321 wins. Possibly going to make that 322 wins as Vegas is up 3-1 in the third period

Fleury was also picked for the All Star Game. His 5th and 3rd in a row with Vegas. Congrats Fleury
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on December 31, 2019, 07:48:04 PM
Madden is reporting that he has been told from his ďreliable sourceĒ that the Pens and Murray are way off in contact talks. He says Murray is asking for 8 years and 8 million per year and the Penguins are willing to pay nowhere near that. Maybe trading Murray and bringing up DeSmith might be something GMJR will look into.

I guess we will see
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on December 31, 2019, 08:05:50 PM
Doing that would allow Emil Larmi, who the Pens apparently like a lot, to move up to WBS from Wheeling. They do have DeSmith signed for next season.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 01, 2020, 08:11:52 AM
Doing that would allow Emil Larmi, who the Pens apparently like a lot, to move up to WBS from Wheeling. They do have DeSmith signed for next season.

From your fingers typing to God's ears! LOL.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: KidRaven on January 01, 2020, 06:55:29 PM
Not Pens related but NHL was able to sell out The Cotton Bowl in Dallas for Winter Classic.  Starts beat Nashville 4-2 in the 2nd highest attended NHL game ever.  Nashville has over 20,000 fans attend. 

Next year the Winter Classic will be in Minneapolis at Target Field.  No opponent yet, but most think Chicago because apparently itís been too long since theyíve played in one.

Rumors they may be looking at The Horseshoe in Columbus for a future game and you would think that would be perfect chance for Pens to get back in the mix. 
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 01, 2020, 08:56:45 PM
I watched the game today it was really good. IMO, I would rather not have the Penguins play in another one of these games. Seems like someone always gets injured in one of these games for the Penguins as the other team, Washington, Philly and I would definitely say Columbus, like to goon it up against the Penguins in a showcase game like this

Let them play Detroit or Buffalo
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on January 02, 2020, 08:32:37 AM
I would love to play Columbus at the Horse Shoe! Would definitely be there!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 02, 2020, 07:10:02 PM
Looks like Galchenyuk will take the place of guentzel to start off this new year on the top line with Malkin and Rust

Jarry is in net tonight against the Sharks

Lets Go Pens!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 02, 2020, 10:43:16 PM
Pens lose 3-2 in OT after SJ gets a 4 on 3 PP courtesy of Letang.

Pens looked a little off their game, sort of like they were still in some shock after losing Guentzel. Jarry played well except maybe a little too deep in net on SJ's 2nd goal. Galchenyk didn't look out of place with Malkin and was putting shots on net. I think a few more games together and they'll be more in tune with each other. Hornqvist scored both Pens' goals.

Sullivan switched up D pairs moving Riikola with Letang, Johnson with Ruhwedel and Marion with Pettersson. Not too surprised as Riikola and Ruhwedel were looking a bit shaky as a pairing.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 03, 2020, 04:48:18 AM
I was just coming on to say the same thing that the Pens, and even Jarry at times, looked shaky during the game. Several times Jarry had a hard time following the puck but can't really fault him on the goals except maybe the second as you stated earlier. Glad to see the Pens scrape out a point a game after losing their top offensive player

Crosby was skating with the team Wednesday. Hopefully he will be coming back soon. Would love to see him back before the All Star Break the starts January 24th
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 03, 2020, 04:58:35 PM
Pens recall Casey DeSmith and DiPauli. Jarry's staying in Pgh to start the FLA game meaning Murray should start vs MTL with DeSmith as back up.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 04, 2020, 11:19:22 AM
Pens recall Casey DeSmith and DiPauli. Jarry's staying in Pgh to start the FLA game meaning Murray should start vs MTL with DeSmith as back up.

Pens are bringing up Emil Larmi instead of DeSmith because DeSmith lost his passport!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 04, 2020, 02:54:00 PM
He must be kicking himself about now.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 04, 2020, 05:18:52 PM
Not gonna lie, I'm streaming the Vegas game right now as they are playing the Blues and Fleury looks really bad today. Gives up 3 goals in the first period and all three of them Fleury should've/could've saved. Announcers were saying Vegas has some bugaboo against St Louis as they have never beaten the Blues in regulation in their arena and it is showing in Vegas's demeanor and the way they are playing right now
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 04, 2020, 07:09:26 PM
Well slap my ass and call me Sally!!! Vegas woke up and Fleury hunkered down and Vegas was able to beat the Blues in overtime 5-4. As I said earlier, Vegas has never been able to beat St Louis in regulation but they have beat them in OT as they did today

Canít wait for Tuesday when the Penguins go to Vegas to take on the Knights. But first things first as the Penguins are getting ready to take on the Canadiens now
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 04, 2020, 08:03:05 PM
Penguins and Canadiens trade goals and it is 1-1 after one period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: Bob.Gregg.WJPA.Radio on January 04, 2020, 08:17:45 PM
HORRIBLE (but not uncommon) play by Letang early in the second.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 04, 2020, 08:20:52 PM
Even though Murray shouldíve stopped that because he wasnít tight against the post, Letang makes an awful turnover right in front of Murray that gives the Canadiens a 2-1 lead. Letang should be embarrassed for trying a pass like that but Murray didnít help anything by lazily trying to cover the puck and leaving the post open

My 2 bugaboos on this team - Letang and Murray! Ship them both to Seattle IMO!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: coach99 on January 04, 2020, 08:37:54 PM
Pens recall Casey DeSmith and DiPauli. Jarry's staying in Pgh to start the FLA game meaning Murray should start vs MTL with DeSmith as back up.

Pens are bringing up Emil Larmi instead of DeSmith because DeSmith lost his passport!
Is he the guy from the Wheeling Nailers?  He will get $4,000 for sitting on the bench tonight :)
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 05, 2020, 04:53:13 AM
Rust was able to put in a rebound off the back boards to tie the game 2-2 and Tanev scores in overtime to give the Pens a 3-2 win. Great win for the depleted Pens and have gotten 3 out of a possible 4 points since Guentzel was injured. The Murray/Letang goal was just awful but after that second goal, the Pens were able to tie it up and get it to overtime.

Pens come back to Pittsburgh to play Florida today

And yes coach99, that goalie is the one from Wheeling
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 05, 2020, 06:46:15 AM
Yes, Larmi gets 4k for his back up duty tonight.

Agree about the 2nd goal, bad play from Letang and Murray, but Murray did make some very good saves to keep the  Pens in it until Rust's tying goal and after too. It took a bit, but after review Tanev's goal in OT was declared good. I'd just as soon see Galchenyk stay with Malkin and Rust, but Sullivan must really not like him.

I see Lehner got hurt in Chicago's game with a knee injury. If he's going to be out awhile, might be a trade partner for Rutherford to move Murray for a forward.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 05, 2020, 08:44:08 AM
Yes, Larmi gets 4k for his back up duty tonight.

Agree about the 2nd goal, bad play from Letang and Murray, but Murray did make some very good saves to keep the  Pens in it until Rust's tying goal and after too. It took a bit, but after review Tanev's goal in OT was declared good. I'd just as soon see Galchenyk stay with Malkin and Rust, but Sullivan must really not like him.

I see Lehner got hurt in Chicago's game with a knee injury. If he's going to be out awhile, might be a trade partner for Rutherford to move Murray for a forward.


Yes he did. He did keep the Pens in the game while they struggle to find their offense. And I agree about Sullivan and Galchenyuk. Once you get in Sullivan's doghouse it is very hard to get out of it
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: Bob.Gregg.WJPA.Radio on January 05, 2020, 06:35:58 PM
Penguins look tired today, getting regularly beaten to loose pucks.
Letang is having a second straight poor game, trying dangerous passes, doing ill-advised spin moves in traffic, etc.

Should they rally for a point (or two), they would be extremely fortunate.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 06, 2020, 06:16:58 AM
Pens just didn't have it last night. Heard a theory that Letang has lost a step but hasn't adjusted his style to accomodate that fact.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 06, 2020, 12:03:40 PM
25-12-5 with 55 points, 8 points behind Washington and second place in the Metro. With all the injuries the Penguins have had so far this season, I am happy with where the Penguins are and can forgive them for a bad game. I just have a hard time forgiving Letang LOL. IMO, he should know better but to this day he doesnít.

Saying all of that the Pens could easily be in trouble and lose some games this week as they go on a tough Western trip and play VEGAS, LA, Colorado and Arizona. Sullivan has not committed yet if Crosby will even go on this road trip
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: Bob.Gregg.WJPA.Radio on January 06, 2020, 02:18:24 PM
Crosby IS traveling with the team on the trip.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 07, 2020, 11:03:42 AM
Ron Burkle's 27 yr old son found dead in his LA apt.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins/2020/01/07/Penguins-Ron-Burkle-s-son-found-dead-Los-Angeles/stories/202001070087
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 08, 2020, 04:42:26 AM
Despite being outshot 35-16, the Penguins get the win last night over Fleury and the Knights 4-3. Pens took advantage of some bad calls by the refs as one call was icing that shouldn't have been in the first period. Pens won the faceoff and Hornqvist put in the rebound to take a 2-0 early lead. After going up 3-0, Vegas came back in the second to make it 3-2 then Tanev scored to make it 4-2. Pens were then up in the third 4-3 and killing off a penalty and the ref blew the whistle for offsides when the puck never went out of the zone.

Pens got the calls last night but the main factor was Jarry was better than Fleury. Jarry made some huge saves to keep the Pens lead throughout the game. Also congrats to HC Mike Sullivan on his 200th win

Good way for the Pens to start off a tough road trip
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 08, 2020, 05:52:06 AM
Jarry named to the NHL All-Star game. He and Letang will represent the Pens at the game.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 08, 2020, 08:09:51 AM
Jarry named to the NHL All-Star game. He and Letang will represent the Pens at the game.


Congrats to Jarry and Letang but I sure would rather have Jarry get some rest versus playing during the All Star Break.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on January 08, 2020, 08:37:49 AM
Jarry named to the NHL All-Star game. He and Letang will represent the Pens at the game.

Very happy for Jarry.

And my condolences to Mr. Burkle and his family.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 08, 2020, 09:51:31 AM
Letang replaced Guentzel; Jarry was picked to replace CBJ's Korpisalo.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 08, 2020, 10:16:35 AM
Rumor floating around is that Crosby will be back Friday when the Penguins take on Colorado.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 08, 2020, 02:47:46 PM
Pens waive Blandisi with the intent to re-assign him to WBS if he clears by noon tomorrow. Not really sure why they chose to waive Blandisi and not Agozzini, but whatever. This will clear roster space for Crosby's return.

Also about Jarry resting during the All-Star break, the Pens have 9 days off, their scheduled week off plus the All-Star break. Jarry getting in a little work halfway through should help brush off the layoff rust. Anyway, the All-Star game is all about skill, no one's going to be hitting anyone else or crashing into the crease.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 10, 2020, 11:00:13 PM
Pens down 2-1 after a weird bounce gets past Murray with less than 2 minutes left in the second period but Rust scores barely into the third period to tie the game up 2-2
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 10, 2020, 11:29:29 PM
Iím sitting here screaming at the tv because the refs donít make an obvious interference call for Colorado interfering with Malkin but now Iím glad they let play continue as  Kahun scores to give the Pens a 3-2 lead with less than 4 minutes left in the game
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 10, 2020, 11:30:04 PM
Now a 3-2 Pens lead, but Rust took a delay penalty and Pens on the PK.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 10, 2020, 11:32:53 PM
Pens blow a 3-2 lead with 30 secs left, going to OT.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 10, 2020, 11:35:45 PM
Pens blow a 3-2 lead with 30 secs left, going to OT.

Pens couldnít clear the puck and the puck gets deflected but Murray also missed the puck with his glove. Pens do get a hard fought point and thatís three points so far in two tough road games. Letís see if they can get one more
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 10, 2020, 11:39:21 PM
McCann scores in OT, Pens win 4-3.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 10, 2020, 11:40:55 PM
Nice! McCann gets the OT goal to give the Pens a 4-3 win and both points. What a game from Marino, Blueger and Tanev and them three were put together in OT and they worked well together

Great win for the Pens!
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 11, 2020, 11:20:45 AM
Murray made some key saves, but letting in that bouncer from center ice was bad, bad, bad. No doubt, Murray's playing better, but he sure seems to need a lot of ego massaging from his teammates if the post-game comments from Sullivan are any indication.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 11, 2020, 03:18:56 PM
Murray made some key saves, but letting in that bouncer from center ice was bad, bad, bad. No doubt, Murray's playing better, but he sure seems to need a lot of ego massaging from his teammates if the post-game comments from Sullivan are any indication.


Donít know if you saw or not bfgrad, but every player who came on the ice after Murray let up that bad goal came over and tapped his pads. Errey made such a huge deal about it as he was saying how that shows how the Pens are playing as a team but I saw it as you as Murray constantly needs his ego massaged. Until Rust scores that goal in the 3rd to tie it, everyone e I heard was making every excuse in the book for Murray giving up that goal instead of just admitting that it was a bad goal to give up
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: bfgrad on January 11, 2020, 07:11:01 PM
When Murray first came up, he just shrugged the goals off regardless, now he seems to be more high maintenance. Maybe his dad being sick, then passing away has had more of an effect on him than anyone realizes.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on January 12, 2020, 08:01:26 AM
When Murray first came up, he just shrugged the goals off regardless, now he seems to more high maintenance.

Agreed completely. No matter how little I thought of him in terms of ability I will agree completely that he had that ability to shake off a bad goal or a bad game and come.back and make the next save or shutout the next opponent.

As to speculating why your guess is as good as any but there is definitely a certain mental toughness and discipline to goaltending that simply some have, some do not, some gain later (look at someone like a Tim Thomas)  etc. The good is that MM is still young by goalie standards. He is just going to price himself out from starter and will almost have to go the Robin Lehner track just with a better resume.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 12, 2020, 06:15:11 PM
 Beautiful puck movement as the Penguins get an early 5 on 3 power play and McCann scores to make it 1-0 Pens over the Coyotes
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 12, 2020, 06:46:59 PM
Pens and Coyotes tied 1-1 after one period. Malkin takes a stupid retaliation penalty and the Penguins will be short handed to start the second period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: yannessa_is_god on January 12, 2020, 07:03:29 PM
Ray Shero fired by New Jersey. His tenure there has been an absolute disaster. That franchise is a mess.
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 12, 2020, 07:09:50 PM
Hornqvist with the power play goal to give the Pens a 2-1 lead early in the second period
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 12, 2020, 07:40:05 PM
Pens and Arizona tied 2-2 after 2 periods. Pens dominated that second period but only have one goal and a tied up game to show for it
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 12, 2020, 08:16:31 PM
Defense leaves Jarry out to dry as they are just standing around and leave a Coyote wide open in the slot and he is able to put the puck in the net to give the Coyotes a 3-3 lead with 7:31 left in the 3rd
Title: Re: Pens 2019 - 2020 Regular Season
Post by: hs on January 12, 2020, 08:27:07 PM
Tanev gets rewarded as he was working his ass off and shouldíve drew 2 or 3 penalties but were not called and he was able to score to tie this game up 3-3. What a signing by Rutherford