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Title: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: lebfan on February 13, 2019, 09:40:33 AM
Lynn Greer ineligible for state playoffs.

http://papreplive.com/2019/02/12/in-test-of-new-piaa-rules-roman-catholics-greer-ruled-ineligible-for-state-playoffs/
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: rdg1975 on February 13, 2019, 10:26:16 PM
Breaks my heart.  How about the quote ‘explore other legal options’
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: yepper on February 13, 2019, 10:30:41 PM
don't cry for me Argentina
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: bfgrad on February 13, 2019, 10:52:12 PM
Actions have consequences. It's not like the new rule wasn't known or publicized.
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: RyanHS93 on February 14, 2019, 05:28:28 AM
This is BS  The kid played two years for Roman Catholic  Of all the transfers this is the dumbest to crack down on   
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: BBFAN on February 15, 2019, 09:14:29 AM
All transfers should be cracked down on.  Especially the ones where these kids are leaving small public schools to go play at larger public schools or private schools.  Look in berks county for example:  SV lost the ermil kid to reading high.  6-5 freshman.  Rumor that SV best 8th grader is going to Berks Catholic. 6-3 wing man.  Rumor that hamburgs best middle school play will be going to Berks catholic.  This is getting out of hand.  Either make these private schools all play 6A or make them play in their own league.  These small schools dont have any chance because when a good player comes along they lose them to a private school.
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: SteamRollers1 on February 15, 2019, 02:41:50 PM
All transfers should be cracked down on.  Especially the ones where these kids are leaving small public schools to go play at larger public schools or private schools.  Look in berks county for example:  SV lost the ermil kid to reading high.  6-5 freshman.  Rumor that SV best 8th grader is going to Berks Catholic. 6-3 wing man.  Rumor that hamburgs best middle school play will be going to Berks catholic.  This is getting out of hand.  Either make these private schools all play 6A or make them play in their own league.  These small schools dont have any chance because when a good player comes along they lose them to a private school.

What pisses me off is these kids getting sponsors and transferring from everywhere in the country and even Europe, Africa etc.
"Sponsorship" means somebody (usually an alumnus) paid their tuition.
Neumann-Goretti and Kennedy Christian are blatant examples of this.
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: yepper on February 15, 2019, 10:25:32 PM
 well raise my rent!

Do you mean Oscar is not from Hermitage?

Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: Husky68 on February 15, 2019, 10:56:02 PM
I think the Neumann Goretti boys may get a bad rap when they are lumped in with the schools that "steal" players from other schools.  Most of their kids are there as freshman.  I'm not aware of them picking up kids who have established themselves at other schools.  I don't think that Harrisburg or Chester have ever been accused of stealing players but both have had a number of established players show up as juniors or seniors over the years.  A lot of family dynamics have changed over the past fifty years, and not all for the better.  Even those of us who like to talk about the good old days should remember that the '67 Ambridge team included two kids who started their careers at other schools in the valley and Farrell had a number of kids show up because they wanted to play for a good coach and program.  Like my kids say, it is what it is.  Much like we aren't going back to cars with cranks and milk on the porch two or three times a week we aren't gong back to the days of Chip Hilton and Valley Falls.  If you remember that last one you are old!
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: BBJUNK on February 17, 2019, 02:44:48 AM
Roman will still be a tough out. Greer is their fourth best player IMO
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: bfgrad on February 17, 2019, 06:11:43 AM
All transfers should be cracked down on.  Especially the ones where these kids are leaving small public schools to go play at larger public schools or private schools.  Look in berks county for example:  SV lost the ermil kid to reading high.  6-5 freshman.  Rumor that SV best 8th grader is going to Berks Catholic. 6-3 wing man.  Rumor that hamburgs best middle school play will be going to Berks catholic.  This is getting out of hand.  Either make these private schools all play 6A or make them play in their own league.  These small schools dont have any chance because when a good player comes along they lose them to a private school.

What pisses me off is these kids getting sponsors and transferring from everywhere in the country and even Europe, Africa etc.
"Sponsorship" means somebody (usually an alumnus) paid their tuition.
Neumann-Goretti and Kennedy Christian are blatant examples of this.

At least Kennedy, 1A by enrollment, is playing up in 6A. But, imho, Kennedy seems to want to be a "national" type program. They've been establishing a pipeline to Africa the past few years, bringing in transfers. I won't be surprised if they drop out of D10/PIAA sooner or later.
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: swwildcat on February 17, 2019, 08:22:14 PM
All transfers should be cracked down on.  Especially the ones where these kids are leaving small public schools to go play at larger public schools or private schools.  Look in berks county for example:  SV lost the ermil kid to reading high.  6-5 freshman.  Rumor that SV best 8th grader is going to Berks Catholic. 6-3 wing man.  Rumor that hamburgs best middle school play will be going to Berks catholic.  This is getting out of hand.  Either make these private schools all play 6A or make them play in their own league.  These small schools dont have any chance because when a good player comes along they lose them to a private school.

One small correction, Ermil attended SV, but he lived (and still does) in the Glenside section of Reading.  I’m not sure how he attended SV though.  He may have had relatives in that area. 
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: BBFAN on February 18, 2019, 08:59:56 AM
So either way this is bs.  SV was better for his education k-8 until he realized he could play basketball and then used his real address to go to a school for sports.
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: swwildcat on February 18, 2019, 12:36:02 PM
So either way this is bs.  SV was better for his education k-8 until he realized he could play basketball and then used his real address to go to a school for sports.

But you can't have it both ways.  He was in SV inappropriately as he lived in Reading.  But you are only complaining because he now is going to his home school.   Private school is a whole different concept because addresses don't matter.  The point is, in public school you have to bend the rules to tranfer to another school.  In private school you can just enroll.  That's where the inequity is. 
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: rdg1975 on February 18, 2019, 08:50:44 PM
So either way this is bs.  SV was better for his education k-8 until he realized he could play basketball and then used his real address to go to a school for sports.
BB, I always disagree when I hear that you must go to a suburban school for a better education as Reading has some of the best programs if they are taken advantage of. A student can fail or succeed at any school depending on their effort and support.
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: Husky68 on February 18, 2019, 09:36:29 PM
If they go to separate playoffs a couple of questions.

1.  Would they reduce the number of classes back to three or maybe four public and two private (not sure how the numbers shake out.)

2.  Would charter schools and schools like Milton Hershey (not sure how many of those there are) play in the public class or the private class? 

Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: swwildcat on February 18, 2019, 10:53:24 PM
So either way this is bs.  SV was better for his education k-8 until he realized he could play basketball and then used his real address to go to a school for sports.
BB, I always disagree when I hear that you must go to a suburban school for a better education as Reading has some of the best programs if they are taken advantage of. A student can fail or succeed at any school depending on their effort and support.

I didn't even want to address that '75, because people that think that way- always will.  Most of it is not racism, but just misunderstanding.  Many just make those assumptions based off of test scores.  RHS has many spectacular AP and College prep offerings that rival many top private schools.  But you won't hear about that because of the focus on test scores, many of which completed by students that English is their second language.  I graduated from RHS and received an excellent education.  I also was accepted into every college I applied for.  I have 2 kids that graduated; both in major colleges.  But that won't change his opinion.

Basketball wise, RHS is the school he belonged at and eventually he went back.  And Ironically, his father stated that he is getting more out of it lol. 
Title: Re: New transfer rule knocks out Roman Catholic guard from state playoffs
Post by: BBFAN on February 19, 2019, 10:41:04 AM
Not saying that reading does not have great education, but what i am saying is it took you up until your kid was in 8th grade to realize you were in the wrong district.  Besides if he was using the address that he currently lives at to attend reading, he would have never been enrolled at SV.  So if that is where he lives then he was using another address in the district to attend SV.  Therefore, his parents choosing to rather send to SV over Reading for school purposes.  Then the time comes when they see he is going to be good at basketball and then start using their normal address to send him to Reading who has a better basketball program.